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Old Apr 7, 2016 | 08:02 AM
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What is the first year HD changed the cam chain tensioners to solve the issues with the early ones?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2016 | 08:10 AM
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I believe it was 2007 they came out with a new style .
 
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Old Apr 7, 2016 | 08:42 AM
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'06 Dyna had the hydraulic tensioners. Touring and Softails got them in '07
 
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Old Apr 7, 2016 | 09:44 PM
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It is not "Solved". The hydraulic tensioner just puts the catastrophic failure past 30K. There is only one true fix and the new tensioner is NOT it...
 
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Old Apr 7, 2016 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by KJ6TQG
It is not "Solved". The hydraulic tensioner just puts the catastrophic failure past 30K. There is only one true fix and the new tensioner is NOT it...
Are you speaking from experience?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2016 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JustDave13
Are you speaking from experience?
Yes, not my first rodeo by any means. Old guys know "stuff"...Beware of any twin cam motor, they have a built in hornets nest...
 

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Old Apr 8, 2016 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by KJ6TQG
It is not "Solved". The hydraulic tensioner just puts the catastrophic failure past 30K. There is only one true fix and the new tensioner is NOT it...
Originally Posted by KJ6TQG
Yes, not my first rodeo by any means. Old guys know "stuff"...Beware of any twin cam motor, they have a built in hornets nest...
Bullshit.

I have a 2011 sitting in the garage with double that and very little wear on the tensioner shoes. I checked them when I changed out the C lifters. Roller chains, hydraulic tensioners and better shoe material made the Twin Cam the same as most any overhead cam engine (the TC is not an OHC engine). They all use tensioners on the cam chain(s).

You can switch early Twin Cam tensioner shoes to Cyco and roller chain cams front and back and very nearly eliminate the need to look in the cam chest except for 30k intervals.

Now if you want to say a SE hydraulic conversion kit doesn't correctly solve the problem I'll agree as it retains the link chain on the back side of the cam plate.

This forum is rife with "cam chain tensioner failure" boogiemen. I pity the poor fellow who comes here trying to prevent, repair or even learn about what's inside their motor. The go to answers are "gear drive" or "sell it and buy an Evo". Post 2007 cam chain tensioner failure is very rare south of 100k miles. At 100k I'd at least change the lifters which is the perfect time to inspect and/or replace the cam chain tensioner shoes.

If you have a 2007 or newer, do first line maintenance on it and ride the thing.

If you have a 99 to 06, change the shoes on the spring tensioners, and/or switch to roller chain cams front and back. The same goes for the SE conversion, change the cams to ones that use roller chains on both sides of the cam plate.

Hundreds of thousands Twin Cams are out on the road running every day without "catastrophic" failure past 30K miles. That trumps ANY internet resume. I swear, I wish all these "experts" would stay in the "which oil should I use?" or "should I get a get back whip?" threads
 

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Old Apr 8, 2016 | 05:19 AM
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Replaced the cam chain tensioners on my '07 Ultra with Zippers Dual Piston Tensioners when I did a cam change. 42,000 miles or so.
One had no wear but the other had a groove (slight) started.
 
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My understanding is that the change came with the introduction of the TC96.
 
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My understanding is that the change came with the introduction of the TC96.
You mean the change to roller chains on both side of the cam plate; right Graham?
 
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