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After installing the Fuel Moto 107, have been running on there tune they sent programmed on the power vision I bought with the kit (break in miles). This bike runs very well, no decal popping and idles and runs very well. Do I still need to have a tuner dyno this bike? Will it justify paying $300.00 for the tune?
After installing the Fuel Moto 107, have been running on there tune they sent programmed on the power vision I bought with the kit (break in miles). This bike runs very well, no decal popping and idles and runs very well. Do I still need to have a tuner dyno this bike? Will it justify paying $300.00 for the tune?
There is no "programmed" tune that will be as accurate as a proper dyno tune. However, I would add that a proper dyno tune requires a competent tuner, so, unless you are certain of the capabilities of your dyno tuning source, you could be better off with the programmed tune. Whether a proper dyno tune is worth $300 or not is your call...........
After installing the Fuel Moto 107, have been running on there tune they sent programmed on the power vision I bought with the kit (break in miles). This bike runs very well, no decal popping and idles and runs very well. Do I still need to have a tuner dyno this bike? Will it justify paying $300.00 for the tune?
Have you run a few auto tune sessions? That will make a difference in closed loop and is a must to take advantage of the power vision. Most maps will already be rich enough, if not too rich, in open loop.
Have you run a few auto tune sessions? That will make a difference in closed loop and is a must to take advantage of the power vision. Most maps will already be rich enough, if not too rich, in open loop.
The OP is running a map from FM programmed to their 107 configuration. I doubt running any auto tunes will improve on the FM map as they develop the maps for their motor configurations in house on their dyno. I believe the only chance the OP has to improve the tune would be a proper dyno tune should he feel $300 is worth seeing if a dyno tune will improve the numbers........
The OP is running a map from FM programmed to their 107 configuration. I doubt running any auto tunes will improve on the FM map as they develop the maps for their motor configurations in house on their dyno. I believe the only chance the OP has to improve the tune would be a proper dyno tune should he feel $300 is worth seeing if a dyno tune will improve the numbers........
Fuelmoto recommeded that I run several autotune sessions with their map just due to the variation in components. Comparing the files afterwards showed it was a good decision. If the OP hasnt done so he may be happy with the results. As you point out a dyno tune has everything to do with the skills of the tuner and that can be a crap shoot.
Have you run a few auto tune sessions? That will make a difference in closed loop and is a must to take advantage of the power vision. Most maps will already be rich enough, if not too rich, in open loop.
I have not run any auto tune, I have no experience in tuning a motorcycle, or using the power vision. And I really like this bike. Don't want to screw it up. I will fork out the money and get it tuned by a local shop here in Lake Charles. Third Coast Speed, they have had plenty of good reviews. Thanks for all the help.
I have not run any auto tune, I have no experience in tuning a motorcycle, or using the power vision. And I really like this bike. Don't want to screw it up. I will fork out the money and get it tuned by a local shop here in Lake Charles. Third Coast Speed, they have had plenty of good reviews. Thanks for all the help.
Sounds like a good choice for you. Taking the time to learn how to use these tuners isnt for everybody. And it does take some time. Good luck with it.
Fuelmoto recommeded that I run several autotune sessions with their map just due to the variation in components. Comparing the files afterwards showed it was a good decision. If the OP hasnt done so he may be happy with the results. As you point out a dyno tune has everything to do with the skills of the tuner and that can be a crap shoot.
Makes sense; main reaon why I suggested a proper dyno tune. There is no such thing as one size fits all when it comes to tuning and while the FM maps for there motor kits, there may be differences in other components as you point out; particularly exhaust and intake.
The benefit of a dyno is that it measures the torque of the engine at the rear wheel and can identify parts of the rev range that will benefit from alterations away from optimum fuel ratio. An autotune cannot do that, although it may well improve on a library map.
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