Could not really care what you think, was not posting for your approval. DynoJet will confirm what I stated.
Milwaukee 8 stall problem
1st Gear
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 5
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From: South Carolina
So, Mr. MTBIG, I would like to first say that you should act like an adult instead of a kid that got laid for the first time and tries to impress others.
For the thread, DynoJet has also reported issues with idling, searching for idle, etc. Harley does have a problem with it and the dealer where I live is also aware of it. They even have an update program for it.
Lastly, I don't really care if you believe what I stated about adjusting my own program. It worked on my scoot and I simply passed on what I did to make things correct.
For anyone else on the string, I can give you exact procedures if you want to know but you will have to contact me directly as I really don't have time to play with sandbox trash like Mr. T.
Nothing like regretting attempting to help....
For the thread, DynoJet has also reported issues with idling, searching for idle, etc. Harley does have a problem with it and the dealer where I live is also aware of it. They even have an update program for it.
Lastly, I don't really care if you believe what I stated about adjusting my own program. It worked on my scoot and I simply passed on what I did to make things correct.
For anyone else on the string, I can give you exact procedures if you want to know but you will have to contact me directly as I really don't have time to play with sandbox trash like Mr. T.
Nothing like regretting attempting to help....
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Joined: Nov 2016
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From: Central west coast Florida
M-8 stalls
I have a 2017 Road Glide Ultra for 5 weeks now. Had the 1,000 servicing and now I have 2,000 miles on it. Last Sunday my bike stalled twice and today it stalled once on my way back from a dealership. They did the bike isn't generating any codes.
So here is when it's stalling. I'll be downshifting to come to a stop. I'll get down to first gear, and as I get ready to stop, I'll pull the clutch in, to apply the brakes, and the RPM's drops so low that the engine just dies. Sometimes it drops to 500 RPM before I goose it with gas to keep the RPM's up. So it's stalling when I come to a stop. I suspect the RPMs do so low that it just shuts itself off. At times it takes a while to restart the bike. This is a dangerous situation because who knows where I'll be when I can't restart my bike.
My bike never stalled during acceleration and it's always been rolling to a stop when the clutch has been depressed.
So here is when it's stalling. I'll be downshifting to come to a stop. I'll get down to first gear, and as I get ready to stop, I'll pull the clutch in, to apply the brakes, and the RPM's drops so low that the engine just dies. Sometimes it drops to 500 RPM before I goose it with gas to keep the RPM's up. So it's stalling when I come to a stop. I suspect the RPMs do so low that it just shuts itself off. At times it takes a while to restart the bike. This is a dangerous situation because who knows where I'll be when I can't restart my bike.
My bike never stalled during acceleration and it's always been rolling to a stop when the clutch has been depressed.
Last edited by Guy Lipsky; Sep 22, 2017 at 12:55 PM.
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From: poway
So, Mr. MTBIG, I would like to first say that you should act like an adult instead of a kid that got laid for the first time and tries to impress others.
For the thread, DynoJet has also reported issues with idling, searching for idle, etc. Harley does have a problem with it and the dealer where I live is also aware of it. They even have an update program for it.
Lastly, I don't really care if you believe what I stated about adjusting my own program. It worked on my scoot and I simply passed on what I did to make things correct.
For anyone else on the string, I can give you exact procedures if you want to know but you will have to contact me directly as I really don't have time to play with sandbox trash like Mr. T.
Nothing like regretting attempting to help....
For the thread, DynoJet has also reported issues with idling, searching for idle, etc. Harley does have a problem with it and the dealer where I live is also aware of it. They even have an update program for it.
Lastly, I don't really care if you believe what I stated about adjusting my own program. It worked on my scoot and I simply passed on what I did to make things correct.
For anyone else on the string, I can give you exact procedures if you want to know but you will have to contact me directly as I really don't have time to play with sandbox trash like Mr. T.
Nothing like regretting attempting to help....
Add. Part of it is the slip assist clutch.. Needs getting used to..
Last edited by Max Headflow; Sep 22, 2017 at 01:07 PM. Reason: Add
Road Warrior
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,887
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From: SE Washington
Dundee. Try to understand that in your very first post some fairly outlandish statements were made, such as:
"The M8s have both a problem with stalling on take off as well as stopping. Engine shutting off while in a very slow speed turn such as pulling out of a stop and making a turn."
Really? I admit, with the new slipper clutch take offs are different and take some getting used to, but stalling and engine shutting off?
"And Harley is dodging recalls and liability with this problem."
Really? Calling BS here.
"the bike shuts off while you are under 10 mph"
??? WTF
"it is EVERY M8.
No! Not every M8. Niether myself nor anyone I know personally with an M8 have had any of the issues you described.
Your saying dynojet has reported these issues. Where? Is there a link?
You adjusted the VE tables, idle etc... with what tuner?
Lastly, I didnt attack you on a personal level. I simply called BS on outlandish statements in your post, especially since it was your first; no introduction, no bike listed, etc. You, on the other hand, are are trying to make things personal. I'm not biting. Simply dont belive anything you've said.
"The M8s have both a problem with stalling on take off as well as stopping. Engine shutting off while in a very slow speed turn such as pulling out of a stop and making a turn."
Really? I admit, with the new slipper clutch take offs are different and take some getting used to, but stalling and engine shutting off?
"And Harley is dodging recalls and liability with this problem."
Really? Calling BS here.
"the bike shuts off while you are under 10 mph"
??? WTF
"it is EVERY M8.
No! Not every M8. Niether myself nor anyone I know personally with an M8 have had any of the issues you described.
Your saying dynojet has reported these issues. Where? Is there a link?
You adjusted the VE tables, idle etc... with what tuner?
Lastly, I didnt attack you on a personal level. I simply called BS on outlandish statements in your post, especially since it was your first; no introduction, no bike listed, etc. You, on the other hand, are are trying to make things personal. I'm not biting. Simply dont belive anything you've said.
Last edited by MTBIG G; Sep 22, 2017 at 02:02 PM.
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From: Alorton, Illinois
I have had a few customers with the complaint. It's brought up during the pretune discussion. I have never done anything to address it. Just tuned the bikes and problem went away.
A couple of things I don't like about how the stock cals are set up. Leaner than I like to see in the 20kpa deceleration area of the lambda target table. I run this area rich enough to get it out of closed loop values. The other is I raise idle. Some are set up as low as 940. I like closer to 1000.
I'd bet that the factory tune does have something to do with this.
A couple of things I don't like about how the stock cals are set up. Leaner than I like to see in the 20kpa deceleration area of the lambda target table. I run this area rich enough to get it out of closed loop values. The other is I raise idle. Some are set up as low as 940. I like closer to 1000.
I'd bet that the factory tune does have something to do with this.
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From: poway
I have had a few customers with the complaint. It's brought up during the pretune discussion. I have never done anything to address it. Just tuned the bikes and problem went away.
A couple of things I don't like about how the stock cals are set up. Leaner than I like to see in the 20kpa deceleration area of the lambda target table. I run this area rich enough to get it out of closed loop values. The other is I raise idle. Some are set up as low as 940. I like closer to 1000.
I'd bet that the factory tune does have something to do with this.
A couple of things I don't like about how the stock cals are set up. Leaner than I like to see in the 20kpa deceleration area of the lambda target table. I run this area rich enough to get it out of closed loop values. The other is I raise idle. Some are set up as low as 940. I like closer to 1000.
I'd bet that the factory tune does have something to do with this.
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Cruiser
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 170
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From: Charlotte, NC
A Harley Tech came to look at the bike several months ago and he determined it was a faulty clutch switch. They replaced that and the issue is completely gone. I have put on 3k miles since the fix and all is well.
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From: Omaha,NE
I could see how a bad clutch switch could do it. I've never stalled mine in the 2600 miles I've put on it, but I almost stalled the demo bike on the first clutch pull on my first M8 ride.