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Old Jan 20, 2017 | 02:19 PM
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Back when the EVO had gear drive with bearings in the outer cover, close tolerance was required. With the cam chain drive of the cams, .012 is close enough. This allowed Harley to just fixture the crank wheels and press it together. I seriously doubt they attempt to do any trueing.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2017 | 07:54 PM
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Post #8 describes how to check crank good enough. Thanks, MultiHD...!
 
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Post #8 describes how to check crank good enough. Thanks, MultiHD...!
Checking and truing/balancing are very different; no hammer required to check.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2017 | 02:03 PM
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Back when the EVO had gear drive with bearings in the outer cover, close tolerance was required. With the cam chain drive of the cams, .012 is close enough. This allowed Harley to just fixture the crank wheels and press it together. I seriously doubt they attempt to do any trueing.
I found a video on youtube, guy was using some jig to hold 2 halves in perfect alignment, while pressing them together. It was probably $300-500 jig plus $1000 or more hydraulic press.
I guess, the guy was not smart enough to use a hammer...
 
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Old Jan 21, 2017 | 02:29 PM
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I found a video on youtube, guy was using some jig to hold 2 halves in perfect alignment, while pressing them together. It was probably $300-500 jig plus $1000 or more hydraulic press.
I guess, the guy was not smart enough to use a hammer...
I have yet to see the bore for the crank pin on a TC . Is there any keyway? Post a shortcut to that video.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2017 | 02:33 PM
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I have yet to see the bore for the crank pin on a TC . Is there any keyway? Post a shortcut to that video.
No keyway for the TC crankpin; interference fit. That's what plugging or welding is for. IIRC, he SE cranks are supposed to be a "tighter than stock" interference fit.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2017 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 13RoadKing
I found a video on youtube, guy was using some jig to hold 2 halves in perfect alignment, while pressing them together. It was probably $300-500 jig plus $1000 or more hydraulic press. I guess, the guy was not smart enough to use a hammer...
Post the video; I want to see the jig that holds the TC wheels in perfect alignment under the pressure required to stick the crankpin; suspect it will go well beyond the means of the typical DIH Harley guy like me. I would have to use a hammer.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2017 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 13RoadKing
I invented a tool to repair connecting rod journals (cars) w/o removing engine. About 30 engines are done already. One of them, 02 Jaguar X-type I drove for a few K miles. Yesterday I finished 08 Dodge Caliber (2 journals)
There is no need to invent anything to adjust bike crank. I wouldn't use a hammer to adjust it. Use vise to hold one half of a crank and some holding tool like channel locks with a pipe for leverage for another.

Man I can't tell you how many messes I've cleaned after guys who thought just like this. It's seriously more complicated than you think and you have zero clue whats involved in getting it right on the throw away flywheels like the twinkies have. When or if you get an education on the how's and why's of rebuilding a flywheel be it the older multi parts units in shovels & evos or the newer press together twinkie wheels come back and try it then. Go at like your thinking and you may as well just feed $100 bills into a shredder while watching, you won't feel near as stupid when done.
 
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Well, you'll never achieve anything if you don't try. When I screw up, I learn from my mistakes and keep trying! I tried to install a windshield in my Corvette, broke it and installed second time(they charged me half price for second one, $45). Since then I installed probably 10 windshields, no big deal! I messed up a few car engines, no problem, just keep pushing, you'll be there!
I also repair engines sometimes after people mess them up, trying to fix.
 
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Well, you'll never achieve anything if you don't try. When I screw up, I learn from my mistakes and keep trying! I tried to install a windshield in my Corvette, broke it and installed second time(they charged me half price for second one, $45). Since then I installed probably 10 windshields, no big deal! I messed up a few car engines, no problem, just keep pushing, you'll be there!
I also repair engines sometimes after people mess them up, trying to fix.
Take's equipment that isn't exactly backyard rigable as well as some practical working knowledge of how to's for what you want to try, been there myself. I have the old school cast iron Rowe flywheel truing stand and everything needed to balance them, used to do mine on an old lathe before I got that. Had to make a special bench and setup to hold the wheels so I could get the torque the crankpin nuts took back then, tear the average garage bench off the wall if you didn't.

The new press together flywheels takes a healthy hydraulic press and some decent fixturing to get right, hammer ain't gonna fly sorry.You won't beat a pressed set of wheels straight without buggering something. I understand the want but the wheels are the heart of your machine, think about it.
 
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