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Oil pump is most likely not aligned properly if left attached to the cam plate. Remove the cam plate and pump, remove pump from cam plate, reinstall following the alignment procedure.
Project bike is a softail and I am betting the oil level is over full if the oil level is nearing the top of the tank. Before R/Ring the cam plate and pump, drain the oil and see how much comes out.
Get the oil level right, get the pump aligned and check the pressure relief valve to make sure it isn't stuck; then try again.
Oil pump is most likely not aligned properly if left attached to the cam plate. Remove the cam plate and pump, remove pump from cam plate, reinstall following the alignment procedure.
Project bike is a softail and I am betting the oil level is over full if the oil level is nearing the top of the tank. Before R/Ring the cam plate and pump, drain the oil and see how much comes out.
Get the oil level right, get the pump aligned and check the pressure relief valve to make sure it isn't stuck; then try again.
We drained all of the oil before we started it and put 3 quarts back in so i don't think overfill is the issue. When i go back, i will pull it all back apart and reinstall the oil pump onto the crank without it being attached to the cam plate and double check the o rings and pressure relief valve. Isnt there a specific way the oil pump has to go on? Or needs alignment bolts or something? How do you know if it is aligned right or wrong?
We drained all of the oil before we started it and put 3 quarts back in so i don't think overfill is the issue. When i go back, i will pull it all back apart and reinstall the oil pump onto the crank without it being attached to the cam plate and double check the o rings and pressure relief valve. Isnt there a specific way the oil pump has to go on? Or needs alignment bolts or something? How do you know if it is aligned right or wrong?
If the oil level is up to the fill spout, the system is over filled or something must be preventing the oil from departing the tank. If there was time interval between when the work started on the motor and when the oil was drained, oil could have escaped the tank into the crank case. Did you pay attention to how much oil was drained? So you added 3 quarts to whatever had escaped into the crank case plus the 1/2 quart or so that remains in the oil passages, etc. So, then you fire the motor up, and all that oil ends up in the tank.
There are alignment pins you can use to align the pump or you can install the pump, then the plate and start two of the oil pump fasteners to finger tight. Pull the plugs so you can rotate the crank while tightening the two plate to pump fasteners. The pump has to be centered on the pinion shaft and the flat on the gerotors sitting flatly on the flat on the pinion shaft.
This might help as a quick reference also make sure the oil pump inards are installed as exactly shown or there won't be any oil pressure. I usually have success with pulling plugs, in 5th gear
Pump bolts just finger snug, rotating with rear wheel tightening oil pump bolts at the same time. Once one is tight stop rotating your pretty much there. Two people, bonus 😉
Last edited by Xpressway; Mar 29, 2017 at 12:32 PM.
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There are alignment pins you can use to align the pump or you can install the pump, then the plate and start two of the oil pump fasteners to finger tight. Pull the plugs so you can rotate the crank while tightening the two plate to pump fasteners. The pump has to be centered on the pinion shaft and the flat on the gerotors sitting flatly on the flat on the pinion shaft.
After rewatching that S&S video again we did it exactly the same way, didnt pull the oil pump and rotated the motor so that the flats on the shaft matched the flats on the oil pump then slid the cam plate back on. Not sure how the pump would be aligned improperly
After rewatching that S&S video again we did it exactly the same way, didnt pull the oil pump and rotated the motor so that the flats on the shaft matched the flats on the oil pump then slid the cam plate back on. Not sure how the pump would be aligned improperly
You could have easily mis-aligned while installing the plate to the pump; that's when you need to align and easy to do over and get right.
I would be much more concerned about the high oil level and an oil light that is coming on indicating a lack of oil pressure.
As Djl said - just re do the oil pump, Easy way to align pump is to get it started finger tight as has been said - you can use the starter to turn the motor & align the oil pump & torque as you go - make sure plugs are out & bike is not in gear - much easier than trying to turn the back tire in 5th on the stand.
High oil level & No oil pressure is not good & starts with the pump (blockage, o-ring crushed in oil galley?, etc...) you can take push rods out & lifters - turn motor over as described & see if you`re getting oil to the lifters - if so then work your way up from there - But start at the pump first.
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