Cam switch and bearings
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Cam switch and bearings
Greetings,
I had put in Andrews 57h cams last summer and I'm discovering, I think I'd like some more punch a little lower. Thinking Woods 222. My question is, since I had already changed the cam bearings out to Timkens, do I need to replace the bearings again. I've put about 3.5k miles on since last summer's cam change.
I had put in Andrews 57h cams last summer and I'm discovering, I think I'd like some more punch a little lower. Thinking Woods 222. My question is, since I had already changed the cam bearings out to Timkens, do I need to replace the bearings again. I've put about 3.5k miles on since last summer's cam change.
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Greetings,
I had put in Andrews 57h cams last summer and I'm discovering, I think I'd like some more punch a little lower. Thinking Woods 222. My question is, since I had already changed the cam bearings out to Timkens, do I need to replace the bearings again. I've put about 3.5k miles on since last summer's cam change.
I had put in Andrews 57h cams last summer and I'm discovering, I think I'd like some more punch a little lower. Thinking Woods 222. My question is, since I had already changed the cam bearings out to Timkens, do I need to replace the bearings again. I've put about 3.5k miles on since last summer's cam change.
There are some great engine builders on this site that will be able to provide you with professional opinions. FYI... I'm not one of those guys.
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I tend to agree with you on the bearings.
Regarding the cams, EVERY dyno I've seen shows the 222's as having more overall torque and the torque coming on sooner than the 57's. The only advantage the 57's have is above 5krpm by a few HP, and I rarely ride in that range. The 57's don't really start coming on until right around 3k rpm. Don't get me wrong, the 57's are a nice cam, but I'm realizing I'd rather have the power a bit lower in the rev range.
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I agree totally, no need to change them.
The 222s have a 34° intake close. The 57s have a 37° close. That 3° difference will make a noticeable difference in low end.
The 222s have a 34° intake close. The 57s have a 37° close. That 3° difference will make a noticeable difference in low end.
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no need to change the inner bearings,if it is a 99-06,ide just change the one pressed bearing in the cam plate (front)
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I m a big fan of woods cams. if i were you. i would do Andrews 48s vs the 222s. Alnost the same cam but 125 bucks cheaper. i picked up a new set online for less than 225 and they are great.
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I m a big fan of woods cams. if i were you. i would do Andrews 48s vs the 222s. Alnost the same cam but 125 bucks cheaper. i picked up a new set online for less than 225 and they are great.
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What Kirby said on the bearings.
As Sisu points out, the +4* advance sprocket will achieve the same results as changing to the 222 cams for a much lower cost and will give you a feel for the effect of a 4* earlier intake close. The Andrews 48 intake closes much earlier, 29* if IIRC. Then you can decide if the 48 might be a better fit.
You did not mention the model year and displacement?
As Sisu points out, the +4* advance sprocket will achieve the same results as changing to the 222 cams for a much lower cost and will give you a feel for the effect of a 4* earlier intake close. The Andrews 48 intake closes much earlier, 29* if IIRC. Then you can decide if the 48 might be a better fit.
You did not mention the model year and displacement?
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