Greetings,


I had put in Andrews 57h cams last summer and I'm discovering, I think I'd like some more punch a little lower. Thinking Woods 222. My question is, since I had already changed the cam bearings out to Timkens, do I need to replace the bearings again. I've put about 3.5k miles on since last summer's cam change.

 

Cheap insurance IMHO

 

3.5K on those bearings? I wouldn't change them. JMO.

Gotta ask, why do you think the 222's will have more lower "punch" than the 57's?

 

Have you considered keeping the cams and bumping up compression?

There are some great engine builders on this site that will be able to provide you with professional opinions. FYI... I'm not one of those guys.

 

Good question, and something I've considered. However, I've test ridden the non-Ultra touring bikes and really like the new engine. I would think new cams and gaskets are something I can do myself and will run somewhere around $350-$400 or so, vs. what I'm guessing will be considerably more for the compression bump. I'm guessing the M8 will filter down to the Dyna's this coming summer or the next. I don't foresee hanging onto my bike much past this season, or maybe the next on the outside. I'm somewhere between a new Road King or, if the rumors are true, a new Sport Glide. Ultimately, while I'm good with the cost of a cam swap, I'd rather not spend more than that on a bike that I'm thinking I'm going to sell in the not too distant future.


I tend to agree with you on the bearings.
Regarding the cams, EVERY dyno I've seen shows the 222's as having more overall torque and the torque coming on sooner than the 57's. The only advantage the 57's have is above 5krpm by a few HP, and I rarely ride in that range. The 57's don't really start coming on until right around 3k rpm. Don't get me wrong, the 57's are a nice cam, but I'm realizing I'd rather have the power a bit lower in the rev range.

 

I agree totally, no need to change them.


The 222s have a 34� intake close. The 57s have a 37� close. That 3� difference will make a noticeable difference in low end.

 

no need to change the inner bearings,if it is a 99-06,ide just change the one pressed bearing in the cam plate (front)

 

Op

I m a big fan of woods cams. if i were you. i would do Andrews 48s vs the 222s. Alnost the same cam but 125 bucks cheaper. i picked up a new set online for less than 225 and they are great.

FYI only

 

Advance the 57's +4* and you will have the same IVC as the 222's.
It will also give you a compression bump.
The best part is it's only about $50. bucks for the sprocket.

 

What Kirby said on the bearings.

As Sisu points out, the +4* advance sprocket will achieve the same results as changing to the 222 cams for a much lower cost and will give you a feel for the effect of a 4* earlier intake close. The Andrews 48 intake closes much earlier, 29* if IIRC. Then you can decide if the 48 might be a better fit.

You did not mention the model year and displacement?