new 107 Hillside build coming
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Road Master
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From: BERGEN COUNTY N.J.
THIS IS WHERE I GET CONFUSED, I OBVIOUSLY HAVE A STAGE 4 BUIULD....READ ON..
http://www.wideopencycles.net/performance.html
http://www.wideopencycles.net/performance.html
Road Captain
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From: Nunda
as for the intake, its a SE eagle, but NOT 58MM SO WHY WOULD I STAY WITH THAT, MAKES ZERO SENSE THERE.......as they have others that will line up with throttle body when I'm ready, if I'm not happy with power, I'm just getting my ducks in a row, and buying stuff lil here n there, I have to STEAL MONEY FROM MYSELF,ive done a shitload more than the 107 build believe that, I have a build thread if your interested...no offense but for someone who said he read three time, you should know I have cams and headwork done, motors built, I'm heat cycling TOMORROW......LOL
I actually was very close to going the way Dave did.. and porting my stock throttle body 50 mm .
I like the idea of constantly Building better each year. Infact I have already talked to Dave and Scott about a new build.
while many will tell you there is some voodoo needed for the break in.. realize this. No one is correct and few are wrong.
Alot of the quality comes in the machine work and the tolerances kept. Change the oil often is what I was always told.
Some will say it's a waste of money (and I am sure it is) but ya know oil isn't that expensive and I don't want shavings in my parts.
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From: Nunda
Each company's version of a stage 4 is different. I had the Harley Stage 4 103 pro kit..
Yes what you have is stage 4. But it's all in the actual pieces that make the kit.
don't let stages confuse you. They are just simple terms to explain what the engine has had done to it.
and unfortunately we all use them very vaguely.
For an engine to make power it needs the right combo of parts to work together.
Yes what you have is stage 4. But it's all in the actual pieces that make the kit.
don't let stages confuse you. They are just simple terms to explain what the engine has had done to it.
and unfortunately we all use them very vaguely.
For an engine to make power it needs the right combo of parts to work together.
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From: Fort Worth, TX
OP, a TB in the 60mm+ range is too big, you don't even need larger injectors for your 107". As mentioned, a 55mm TB will suit your build well. I built a 117" from my stock 88" and am running an HPI Maxflow 58/55 TB and 5.3g injectors, you do not need anything bigger for your build...
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From: florida
Each company's version of a stage 4 is different. I had the Harley Stage 4 103 pro kit..
Yes what you have is stage 4. But it's all in the actual pieces that make the kit.
don't let stages confuse you. They are just simple terms to explain what the engine has had done to it.
and unfortunately we all use them very vaguely.
For an engine to make power it needs the right combo of parts to work together.
Yes what you have is stage 4. But it's all in the actual pieces that make the kit.
don't let stages confuse you. They are just simple terms to explain what the engine has had done to it.
and unfortunately we all use them very vaguely.
For an engine to make power it needs the right combo of parts to work together.
Road Warrior
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From: florida
Tommy i tried to read all your details but have few Q's forgive me if they've been posted.
Thought u ordered RB pipe already but u are thinking of dandd bobcat also?
Which stage heads did u get?
Will you auto tune w FP3?
Thought u ordered RB pipe already but u are thinking of dandd bobcat also?
Which stage heads did u get?
Will you auto tune w FP3?
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Find a cam that suits your riding style. Find "stage 4 heads" to match. 50 to 58mm TB. Bore jugs to 107". Find a good exhaust. Buy a PV or TTS. Trust the builder.
My 50MM TB on my 107 was smoothed out and just got a new cam swap after 3 years. Did 120 HP and 130 TQ. Could I have got more with a 55 or 58? Sure. Almost all at the top end.
Trust whomever you started with and build it. And quite overthinking this.
My 50MM TB on my 107 was smoothed out and just got a new cam swap after 3 years. Did 120 HP and 130 TQ. Could I have got more with a 55 or 58? Sure. Almost all at the top end.
Trust whomever you started with and build it. And quite overthinking this.
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Road Master
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From: BERGEN COUNTY N.J.
HOWS THIS? IS IT BETTER FOR A GOOD BREAK-IN????
OR IS THERE A BETTER PRODUTS?
http://www.hotbikeweb.com/safe-engine-break-in#page-2
OR IS THERE A BETTER PRODUTS?
http://www.hotbikeweb.com/safe-engine-break-in#page-2
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I set up a break in map on the dyno. Rode it home, and breaking it in on the road. Changing the oil at 50 miles. Changing the oil and filter at 200. Oil/ filter at 500. Back on the dyno sometime after 500 for a full retune. Opinions vary.