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Old Aug 28, 2017 | 08:04 PM
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46mm on stock bike. I ran hillsides stage IV heads @ 11.1 with a 55 HPI with 4.9 injectors and 615/585 cams on my 107 and it was a great combination 129/125. you send me a note on my you tube video that you were only going with scotts stage I heads anything over a 55 mm will be way to much, what did Scott tell you to use ? all ways remember going bigger is not all ways the best plan!
I see on your 110 you went with 6.2,also any reason you went with a different builder for this build? Also I did the gear mod, 72 pulley, 30tooth main gear, so I have lots out of the gate, I was actually thinking with build to throw the 30 tooth back in, as it is now, I'm out of first gear in 10 feet, with build I most likely will start in second gear!!!...lol....and thanks for the info guys, I haven't bought a throttle body as of yet, as I paid to have stock opened up, this was down the road, after motor was well and broken in, new tuner, etc....to pull all the hp I can out of her. great numbers there btw, not sure why we went with the 570 cams, but I know I'm at 10.1 compression.....30 cometic gasket if that helps, was told this will be a excellent combination!!!!!.excuse the ignorant, whats a 615/585 cam, I heard of a 585 cam? is that a special brands labeling? I'm assuming with heads you have high lift cams in there...
 

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Old Aug 28, 2017 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TOMMYBLAZIN
OK, so I'm planning on going 62-64mm throttle body, I know I know I paid to have stock ported, a little upset, he installed the compression releases, clearly AFTER WE AGREED ON 570 EASY STARTS, but he told my indy I told him to late, well he didn't have motor yet, and DIDNT CHARGE ME FOR IT, not happy about that, but not gonna take this public, I wanna see how he handles this, don't like how he put it on me, when I'm 100% sure we agreed on the easy start cams,3 days before motor arrived....as my guy was installing cams, day package was delivered to hillside, tracking numbers PROOVE THIS WHICH I HAVE ALL OF, again, lets see how Scott handles this.....another note.....I am planning on also going up to 6.2 injectors, I'm guessing and doing homework, this is yet ANOTHER area when asked, he didn't have a response????this wasn't a cheap build for what I got, I see stock parts in head etc....soooooio Stock to 2006 bikes is 3.89.

2008-up is 4.2g (TBW). That covers to 110 bikes.

With the mods and likely large cams you'll run, a 5.3 would be better, IMHO.

https://www.fiveomotorsport.com/56010us450-42lbs/hr

Screamin Eagle makes larger injectors they use on their Race 124:

Screamin' Eagle Ž Pro High-Flow Injector Kit
Injectors provide fuel delivery at the rate of 6.2 grams/second, 59% more than
the Original Equipment injectors. Recommended for use with engine configurations
making more than 120 rear wheel horsepower. All EFI-equipped models
require ECM calibration (sold separately). For race application only.
27400002

Fits Twin Cam models equipped with Screamin' Eagle Pro 62mm EFI Throttle
Body 27300019 with High Flow Oval Port Intake Manifold P/N 27082-10 or
Screamin' Eagle Pro 58mm Throttle Body P/N 27639-07A with High Flow Intake
Manifold P/N 29667-07.

Screamin' Eagle Pro High-Flow Injector Kit
Injectors provide fuel delivery at the rate of 6.7 grams/second, 56% more than
the Original Equipment injectors. Recommended for use with engine configurations
making more than 120 rear wheel horsepower. All EFI-equipped models
require ECM calibration (sold separately). For race application only.
27400001

Fits '08-later Touring models equipped with Screamin' Eagle Pro 64mm Throttle
Body P/N 27300033 with High Flow Oval Port Intake Manifold
Looks like to me you have already taken this public. Kind of a dick move in my opinion.
 
Old Aug 28, 2017 | 08:11 PM
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THANKS AGAIN GUYS, SO ILL STAY WITH 55 THROTTLE BODY, IF. I even feel the need, from what I'm reading 52 might be choice, w/new injectors to freshen stuff up, I know with cars, I used to send my injectors out to a guy called rc injectors, he would rebuild, and give me exact specs of each injector, maybe ill do the same with my stockers????he really works them, cause when I installed them alone, no bs I felt a seat of the pants difference, the before and after numbers were dramatic tho, he opened them up nicely.....
 
Old Aug 28, 2017 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TOMMYBLAZIN
I see on your 110 you went with 6.2,also any reason you went with a different builder for this build?


mine is a 124 using 110 heads, when I got into doing any machine work I had been talking with scott and wes on my first build. (107) and went with Scott he was closer to me living in new York . so I decided on this build to give wes a try seeing that he makes great cams that produce great results!
 
Old Aug 28, 2017 | 08:14 PM
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Looks like to me you have already taken this public. Kind of a dick move in my opinion.
don't need that response, by you doing that /TALKING ****, YOUR GOING TO MAKE IT PUBLIC, I'm clearly stating why I'm asking, as I am sure people would ask, why not talk to your builder???? so do me a favor, and STAY THE **** OUT, YOU DONT KNOW ME PAL,KEEP IT THAT WAY, I'm looking for help, not a childish reply, always ONE ASSSHOLE....YOU WIN THE PRIZE now move on.....and is it dick, I have a motor, and don't know what to do with it????looking for positive replys ,I won't engage any more childish behavior....
 
Old Aug 28, 2017 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TOMMYBLAZIN
THANKS AGAIN GUYS, SO ILL STAY WITH 55 THROTTLE BODY, IF. I even feel the need, from what I'm reading 52 might be choice, w/new injectors to freshen stuff up, I know with cars, I used to send my injectors out to a guy called rc injectors, he would rebuild, and give me exact specs of each injector, maybe ill do the same with my stockers????he really works them, cause when I installed them alone, no bs I felt a seat of the pants difference, the before and after numbers were dramatic tho, he opened them up nicely.....
I think I read on five-o 's website they flow match each pair. Iirc
 
Old Aug 28, 2017 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by target64
mine is a 124 using 110 heads, when I got into doing any machine work I had been talking with scott and wes on my first build. (107) and went with Scott he was closer to me living in new York . so I decided on this build to give wes a try seeing that he makes great cams that produce great results!
you think ill get number close to yours? and damm 124...thats a beast!!!!!Missed it, says 124 clear as day...lol...my fault...ill check his page, seems cams are defiantly not all alike by any means!
 

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Old Aug 28, 2017 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cdonis
I think I read on five-o 's website they flow match each pair. Iirc
s might be beneficial to grab a fresh set, and know there at the least matched?not worried about the cost, I want a motor thats reliable, and makes power, I'm 6'2-6'3 280, NOT fat....LOL...so yea I need the TQ
 
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Old Aug 28, 2017 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TOMMYBLAZIN
don't need that response, by you doing that /TALKING ****, YOUR GOING TO MAKE IT PUBLIC, I'm clearly stating why I'm asking, as I am sure people would ask, why not talk to your builder???? so do me a favor, and STAY THE **** OUT, YOU DONT KNOW ME PAL,KEEP IT THAT WAY, I'm looking for help, not a childish reply, always ONE ASSSHOLE....YOU WIN THE PRIZE now move on.....and is it dick, I have a motor, and don't know what to do with it????looking for positive replys ,I won't engage any more childish behavior....
You are the childish ******* my friend. I just highlighted your own statement and called you on it. So go pound sand junior.
 
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S&S 585 cams using 1.725 rockers on the intake valves gives you 615 lift and 585 lift on the exhaust this set up was run by R&R cycles and they liked it so much had there own cams ground to those spec's . scott had the 1.725 rockers kicking around and gave me a smoking deal on them so we went with it on the second build!
 



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