1340 EVO Adj Pushrod hitting the cover
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Are all your pushrods the same length? This might sound like a dumb question, but some brands of adjustable pushrod use 2 different lengths..this might sound like a chofe, but it might be helpful to know. Remove all your pushrods and lay them iut next to each other, the check to see if you have 2 longs and 2 shorts. Look from the rocker contact end to the lock nut end. I have forgotten if the longef one go to exhaust or intake, but something makes me think i have seen this before. Just an idea.
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I stated that I had moved the pushrod cover and it made an improvement. Isn't that exactly what you recommended? I also said it did not fix the problem.
And you responded by lashing out and insinuating that I'm clueless and calling me a primadonna. Oh, and my dealer is a retard. Just what was the point of those remarks?
I don't care what you know, you're just a mean-spirited internet TROLL that needs to make himself feel superior by belittling others. Go pick a fight with someone else.
And you responded by lashing out and insinuating that I'm clueless and calling me a primadonna. Oh, and my dealer is a retard. Just what was the point of those remarks?
I don't care what you know, you're just a mean-spirited internet TROLL that needs to make himself feel superior by belittling others. Go pick a fight with someone else.
Maybe retard for your dealer is the strong name -
Perhaps ignorant, devious, dishonest might be better suited?
You wish to stick up for a person that was going to stick you up? (steal your money ).
Anyone knows that a new lifter will not address said issue.
So I, in fact, agreed with you on two accounts and I encourage you to work on your own bike.
Being these are typed words and zero for modulation or voice deflection, not much can be exhumed. But you go full throttle to the hurt side of life.
If someone is always on your **** dont take it out on me as I had the best intentions.
Lighten up Lester.
If we were havng a beer togather over it, i would guarantee you would laugh your **** off.
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I've had my motor apart more times than I care to mention. I don't believe there is a fix for the front exhaust pushrod rubbing the tube. With the tanks and rocker covers off you can look straight down on the issue. Which I believe is all in the Rocker arms (where they position the pushrods). Harley should have made 2 different rocker arms, one for the intake and one for the exhaust. Think about the geometry or location of the lifters and blocks in comparison to the rocker arms. The ear on the rocker arm for the front exhaust needs to be .125" further towards the pushrod tube. I took pictures of mine and if I can find them I will post them up... The only fix currently is using the EOM pushrods. But if you have motor work (heads shaved and a thinner head gasket you will need to do the math) a .040" change is the max for stock pushrods...
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I've got my share of horror stories about dealerships just like everybody else. And the fact is, even with an almost $100 per hour shop rate, most dealerships won't touch anything older than a twin cam these days. I've been maintaining and repairing my own bikes since 1969 and I bought my first Harley (1000 XLH) in 1982. As a retired technical specialist and instructor I firmly believe in "RTFM", but sometimes the "M" just doesn't address all of those unpleasant little mysteries our Harleys can throw at us. Having said that, the front exhaust pushrod ticking noise has proven resistant to my best efforts to resolve it, so I decided that maybe someone in this forum might have experienced the same issue and found a solution. Seems like everyone agrees that this is not an uncommon problem and I've received some good advice - and many thanks to all of you that have responded.
You are correct that there is no modulation or voice inflection present in text, and knowing that, you should also acknowledge that the words you use, and how you use them, matters. This is especially true when dealing with people who don't know you. For me, I found your interjection of ego into the conversation entirely unnecessary and disrespectful. Perhaps if you and I already knew each other I wouldn't have taken offense, but I don't know you and I didn't step on your tail.
You are correct that there is no modulation or voice inflection present in text, and knowing that, you should also acknowledge that the words you use, and how you use them, matters. This is especially true when dealing with people who don't know you. For me, I found your interjection of ego into the conversation entirely unnecessary and disrespectful. Perhaps if you and I already knew each other I wouldn't have taken offense, but I don't know you and I didn't step on your tail.
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I've had my motor apart more times than I care to mention. I don't believe there is a fix for the front exhaust pushrod rubbing the tube. With the tanks and rocker covers off you can look straight down on the issue. Which I believe is all in the Rocker arms (where they position the pushrods). Harley should have made 2 different rocker arms, one from the intake and one fro the exhaust. Think about the geometry or location of the lifters and blocks in comparison to the rocker arms. The ear on the rocker arm for the front exhaust needs to be .125" further towards the pushrod tube. I took pictures of mine and if I can find them I will post them up... The only fix currently is using the EOM pushrods. But if you have motor work (heads shave and a thinner head gasket you will need to do the math) a .040" change is the max for stock pushrods...
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I have an older bike too and like Mattbastard mentioned it makes noise. I've been chasing down rattles and squeaks for a while now and when I fix one I notice another. It's come to the point where I live with what's left because I know it's not going to grenade, I was getting too obsessive with it. If it isn't a twin cam or a new bike dealerships won't touch it, our bikes are antiques in their eyes. An independent might but speaking for myself I'm not going to run to a mechanic every time a fart runs sideways. I have a FSM and use it plus I do a lot of reading here on Evos which helps a lot. Kingglide549 wasn't being mean spirited he was being blunt, not a big deal.
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Thanx, I'll call them tomorrow to get the specifics. All I see is that they change the center line of the stroke of the pushrod and add rollers..... Not big on roller rockers. They can be noisier the oem...
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I will have the heads on in a week or so and find out. Most Everyone will say rollers are noiser . I can't guess why as it should not add much of or any more lash.
after all there is rollers on the bottom of the lifters too!
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Ya know, there are outfits out there that do custom length pushrods that are NOT adjustable. This would eliminate the fatness at the lifter end of the adjustable and give you the clearance you're after.
Now that I think of it, I may go this route in time, after my bike is reliably running of course.
Now that I think of it, I may go this route in time, after my bike is reliably running of course.
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Now that I think of it, why don't you just go back to OEM pushrods? It's not like you've got some crazy custom build or anything, it's just an Andrews cam. My dad's Dyna has the same cam and he's running stock, non-adjustable pushrods.
Probably your cheapest option, although you'll have to pull the rockers to install them.
Probably your cheapest option, although you'll have to pull the rockers to install them.