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Nov 25, 2019 | 05:31 PM

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Beaux

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Originally Posted by Madnss

Your point? The goal is to have lasting torque over a wide rpm range.

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Nov 25, 2019 | 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rhuff

This one is in STD. But the numbers are in uncorrected on this one too. So about a 3-5 percent lower for uncorrected, but in STD, about a 3-5 percent increase as well. So a wash.

How can the runs be STD and uncorrected? Uncorrected would be 100 not 104/5 (4-5% higher than uncorrected). And the 3-5 percent thing is strange to me, first off uncorrected could be lower or higher than any correction factor if the air density/temps and sea level is there. Just don't get this logic or that confusing sheet (is it STD or uncorrected? can't be both) it says STD 104 and 105 right on it. The difference between STD and SAE is around 2.6% so how you add and subtract and this is also that, is odd to me. Plus if you'd mail me the SAE sheet then why not just post it.

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Nov 25, 2019 | 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ntraindavefl

Post the dyno sheet. 130tq outta 107ci for a common street kit which is what you have.....I’m starting to think the rule here should be if no sheet....no claims. I know forums and YouTube etc are a hotbed for exaggeration so let’s be responsible enough to post what is claimed. Remember a forum isn’t about bloviating to boost your own image but to give real advice and experience to help others consider their options. Not trying to be difficult so please don’t anyone respond aggressively and hurt my feelings.

I no longer have the dyno sheet. This isn't my kit that I put picked the parts for myself . I purchased the kit from FM. it was the 107 outlaw kit. Why do you think I am making # up Is it not possible to make those #s from a 107 kit??

Nov 25, 2019 | 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ntraindavefl

I can't find it. Nor am I in a huge hurry to find the sheet. But when I do, I can mail it on over to you if that makes you happy? Or feel free to call up BVBOB at Razorback Performance. You can't ride a dyno sheet and it's not important to me. But to think that 130 from a streetable 107 isn't doable is odd. That's 150 TQ from a 124" if we are keeping the ratios. Tons of 124's doing 150/150. Is it easy, no, but it's easily doable. Now 160/160 from a 124 (which would be 138ish for a 107) .... that's a whole 'nother ballpark. PMS.

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Nov 25, 2019 | 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ntraindavefl

This a similar build we did just a month ago
this build was with FM 107 kit at 10.5 comp level b heads 55mm and 996- a cams.

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Nov 25, 2019 | 08:56 PM

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"I can't find it"....right. So how about addressing my last post questions? You seem to not want to clarify my post. And FYI, not so solid ground to do the "well if this size motor does this, then the other size should do that, doesn't work that way on producing power. BTW where do you see 124s regularly doing 150/150? builders websites? You are wrong on this one too (no surprise). Call Tom Riser up, he'll tell you to expect 140-145 most of the time. I've done 3 personal 124s and a 131 all high compression and no expense spared, low to mid 140's is 90% of where 124's will fall with production pipes and mid to upper 140's if everything lines up right. So please just answer my last post, with the dozen personal builds I've done and dyno time to match, I'd like to understand how STD and uncorrected can exist on one sheet together at 104/105 correction.

Nov 25, 2019 | 09:18 PM

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I no longer have the dyno sheet. This isn't my kit that I put picked the parts for myself . I purchased the kit from FM. it was the 107 outlaw kit. Why do you think I am making # up Is it not possible to make those #s from a 107 kit??

Good grief, so a guy who lives and loves HD and the performance game, posts on youtube, builds a unicorn 107ci dyno result of 130/125 and somehow the sheet gets used as grocery list scrap paper then tossed out?

So because I'm smart lets explore this possibility...….you're claiming #'s of FM's best unicorn 107 with 999 cams on their site and figured why not pawn that off as mine too.....and "I lost the sheet", how convenient.

Look guys, this has been amateur hour, big waste of my time. My cortisol is rising and I'm going catabolic so I'm downing a protein shake and hitting the sheets.

Nov 25, 2019 | 09:52 PM

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So your saying no one can build a 107 that can produce more hp/tq than your lazy 124?? All have you eat crow instead of those protein shakes . My build came with the 996 cams not 999. Look it up on FM site it's called a 107 outlaw kit night night