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Old Feb 27, 2020 | 06:30 PM
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Hello, all.

I have a 2019 Heritage that just received two new Michelin Commander III tires (just passed through 9000 miles). Drove off the dealership lot and immediately knew something was different so I suspected new tires, different tread, etc. But after I got home (20 minute ride), I knew something was very different and not good. After several riding scenarios and experimentation, this is the problem: between 30 and 50 mph (not necessarily RPM related), there is a definite vibration that is cycling up and down about once a second and does not seem to vary a significant amount in repetition between those speeds (does that make sense?). In other words, the wheels are rotating many more times per second that the vibration cycles and the cycle is about once a second. Most notable if the clutch is engaged at 45 mph and just coast down to 30 mph.

I took it back to the dealership and a mechanic confirmed the issue. It is in the shop now but after 4 days of bad weather (no additional test drive) no answer as to what it could be.

Thought the forum would have some ideas? I also posted in "general" issues.

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Old Feb 27, 2020 | 07:40 PM
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I've bought bad tires before. I once put an Metzeler ME888 touring tire on the back of my Vision since it got good reviews and had a great price from Chaparral. I installed it myself like many tires before (balanced and everything) and it would send this weird vibration thru the chassis as I was slowing down. It would always happen from 10 to 5 mph on decel, coasting (off the brakes), usually as I was turning into a driveway or making a turn onto a side street. I even fully removed it and reinstalled it (and balanced again) and it still happened. I had full warranty on the purchase so I returned it and bought an Avon. Much better, no more shakes.

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Old Feb 27, 2020 | 10:06 PM
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So this started with installation of the new tires. Surely that's not a coincidence. At least one of these tires has some sort of flaw or is seriously out of balance. Maybe the high speed vibration at 1x wheel rotation is setting up a harmonic resonance somewhere on the frame? Maybe the front end vibrates about once per second over a given speed range? It may never be important to know what's going on but it likely won't go away until the tires are changed out, or maybe if they get a proper dynamic balance. Good luck! I hope you post the rest of the story.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 06:35 AM
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I've bought bad tires before. I once put an Metzeler ME888 touring tire on the back of my Vision since it got good reviews and had a great price from Chaparral. I installed it myself like many tires before (balanced and everything) and it would send this weird vibration thru the chassis as I was slowing down. It would always happen from 10 to 5 mph on decel, coasting (off the brakes), usually as I was turning into a driveway or making a turn onto a side street. I even fully removed it and reinstalled it (and balanced again) and it still happened. I had full warranty on the purchase so I returned it and bought an Avon. Much better, no more shakes.

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Thanks - yes, I am thinking a bad tire could be the issue. What throws me is that the vibration does not slow down or speed up relative to the speed of the bike. Problem occurred after tire installed so that seems to be a starting point.
 
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So this started with installation of the new tires. Surely that's not a coincidence. At least one of these tires has some sort of flaw or is seriously out of balance. Maybe the high speed vibration at 1x wheel rotation is setting up a harmonic resonance somewhere on the frame? Maybe the front end vibrates about once per second over a given speed range? It may never be important to know what's going on but it likely won't go away until the tires are changed out, or maybe if they get a proper dynamic balance. Good luck! I hope you post the rest of the story.
Thanks - I agree about the coincidence. I also should say that this started with the rear tire installed only. The front tire was not delivered and I had already dropped the bike off. I suggested a bad tire to the shop?? and they said they would consider it as a possibility. I should learn something today or tomorrow, hopefully and will certainly post the outcome. I have always been a Michelin guy but if I don’t hear good news, I am going to ask for the removal of that tire and install the Dunlop Elite.
 
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This is interesting. When I get to my first tire change on my new Heritage I've been thinking to go to Michelins.
 
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This is interesting. When I get to my first tire change on my new Heritage I've been thinking to go to Michelins.
I was very happy to see the Commander III come out and dove right in. As soon as I know my issue, I will post. I still like the technology behind the tire so I am hoping for either an imbalance (of course now, why was that missed) or just a bad tire. Weather has prevented the test ride and I am getting impatient - remove the wheel and check it!

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