Buying my first M8
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Buying my first M8
Hi everyone,
I'm usually over in the Dyna section so I apologize if I'm asking something that's been covered.
I'm looking at getting my first touring bike, I'd like to get one with an M8 since I already have a Twin Cam. I'm looking at 2017 models because each year newer is more expensive, but I know there were first (and second) year M8 problems.
I'm looking at a bike with 2,600 miles, heck I do twice that in a year. My concern is, does this engine have enough miles on it to even know if there's a problem ? From what I've read, an oil pump redesign seems to be the main thing that resolved the sumping. Is there any way to know if this engine has a newer pump?
I'm usually over in the Dyna section so I apologize if I'm asking something that's been covered.
I'm looking at getting my first touring bike, I'd like to get one with an M8 since I already have a Twin Cam. I'm looking at 2017 models because each year newer is more expensive, but I know there were first (and second) year M8 problems.
I'm looking at a bike with 2,600 miles, heck I do twice that in a year. My concern is, does this engine have enough miles on it to even know if there's a problem ? From what I've read, an oil pump redesign seems to be the main thing that resolved the sumping. Is there any way to know if this engine has a newer pump?
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Aside from opening cam chest or service records, no way of knowing. That said, I have 15k (others have way more) on the 2019 oil pump (not the newest). Its a stage 2 Harley Torque Cam and never had any sumping symptoms.
Can you buy an extended warranty, ride it, and once satisfied get a refund on what was not used? I have never had a warranty but I think you can do this?
Another option, take the money you are saving on a later year and buy the new H-D oil pump for ~$150 (I think less) and change it out. Do a stage 2 while at it.
Otherwise, I wouldnt worry too much about it if the bike comes with some sort of limited warranty.
Are you keeping the Dyna? I traded in a 2011 Street Bob for my 2019 Street Glide and man do I miss it sometimes. Not enough to get rid of the touring model though.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Edit to add: Looks like you have the Royal Blue Low Rider. I love that color and bike. My son is 3 but I have my wife (and myself) convinced he will need a bike in a few years so we can start working on it. That exact bike is at the top of my list.
Can you buy an extended warranty, ride it, and once satisfied get a refund on what was not used? I have never had a warranty but I think you can do this?
Another option, take the money you are saving on a later year and buy the new H-D oil pump for ~$150 (I think less) and change it out. Do a stage 2 while at it.
Otherwise, I wouldnt worry too much about it if the bike comes with some sort of limited warranty.
Are you keeping the Dyna? I traded in a 2011 Street Bob for my 2019 Street Glide and man do I miss it sometimes. Not enough to get rid of the touring model though.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Edit to add: Looks like you have the Royal Blue Low Rider. I love that color and bike. My son is 3 but I have my wife (and myself) convinced he will need a bike in a few years so we can start working on it. That exact bike is at the top of my list.
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Road Warrior
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Personally, Im not quite experienced enough to open up and work in the cam chest either. That said, you can do it for about $800-$1000 which Im sure you will be saving from buying say a 2020.
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Hi everyone,
I'm usually over in the Dyna section so I apologize if I'm asking something that's been covered.
I'm looking at getting my first touring bike, I'd like to get one with an M8 since I already have a Twin Cam. I'm looking at 2017 models because each year newer is more expensive, but I know there were first (and second) year M8 problems.
I'm looking at a bike with 2,600 miles, heck I do twice that in a year. My concern is, does this engine have enough miles on it to even know if there's a problem ? From what I've read, an oil pump redesign seems to be the main thing that resolved the sumping. Is there any way to know if this engine has a newer pump?
I'm usually over in the Dyna section so I apologize if I'm asking something that's been covered.
I'm looking at getting my first touring bike, I'd like to get one with an M8 since I already have a Twin Cam. I'm looking at 2017 models because each year newer is more expensive, but I know there were first (and second) year M8 problems.
I'm looking at a bike with 2,600 miles, heck I do twice that in a year. My concern is, does this engine have enough miles on it to even know if there's a problem ? From what I've read, an oil pump redesign seems to be the main thing that resolved the sumping. Is there any way to know if this engine has a newer pump?
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i'm subbed to Kevin Baxter, love him. I've reevaluated and am looking for a 15-16 with a Twin Cam.
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Kevin is a great. I got a chance to spend a day with him and he is the same guy in person as online. I am also his first paid subscriber to YouTube so yes I trust his opinion.
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This is true. I am planning on getting another (used) bike in the next few years and will learn on that. Prefer to not blow up my 2019 Street Glide engine.
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Fair enough I guess. Grenading a 4-5k bike is easier to take. I dont know your background. My softail is the first bike I cam swapped a few years ago going the 'removing the tank' route to reuse the pushrods. I thought it wasn't bad. Just follow along and take your time. Read the write ups, watch the vids, read the manual... But given what I've done wrenching, and the swap I've done, I'll be doing my street glide myself without worry once the warranty is up. You gain experience by trying, pushing yourself, asking for help when needed, and learning from others. And failing, but that's not a good method of learning to discuss here. Lol.