Problems after cam install
Thread Starter
|
Stage IV
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
From: Washington
Problems after cam install
My ride is a 06 Ultra 88ci with Vance and Hines Tru Duals and SE 203 cams,
Just had the time to install my cams. During the install I discovered the bike had a previously installed power commander so I looked up a map as close to what I have and tried to load it because of a miss at 3000 rpm. The power commander would not communicate with two different computers so I swapped it out with a fuel pak I purchased and used the map from them. Still have this nasty miss at the same rpm, called Vance and Hines back we modified the MAP and now the miss has moved from 2500 to 3500. Checked valve adj, changed spark plugs and tried it again same results. Going to get another MAP Any other ideas?
First time I did twin cams pretty sure they are timed or it wouldn't run would it?
After this next MAP change I guess the next step is to open it up again and verify the cams unless anyone has some ideas.
Just had the time to install my cams. During the install I discovered the bike had a previously installed power commander so I looked up a map as close to what I have and tried to load it because of a miss at 3000 rpm. The power commander would not communicate with two different computers so I swapped it out with a fuel pak I purchased and used the map from them. Still have this nasty miss at the same rpm, called Vance and Hines back we modified the MAP and now the miss has moved from 2500 to 3500. Checked valve adj, changed spark plugs and tried it again same results. Going to get another MAP Any other ideas?
First time I did twin cams pretty sure they are timed or it wouldn't run would it?
After this next MAP change I guess the next step is to open it up again and verify the cams unless anyone has some ideas.
Road Warrior
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,566
Likes: 55
From: Londonderry, NH
My ride is a 06 Ultra 88ci with Vance and Hines Tru Duals and SE 203 cams,
Just had the time to install my cams. During the install I discovered the bike had a previously installed power commander so I looked up a map as close to what I have and tried to load it because of a miss at 3000 rpm. The power commander would not communicate with two different computers so I swapped it out with a fuel pak I purchased and used the map from them. Still have this nasty miss at the same rpm, called Vance and Hines back we modified the MAP and now the miss has moved from 2500 to 3500. Checked valve adj, changed spark plugs and tried it again same results. Going to get another MAP Any other ideas?
First time I did twin cams pretty sure they are timed or it wouldn't run would it?
After this next MAP change I guess the next step is to open it up again and verify the cams unless anyone has some ideas.
Just had the time to install my cams. During the install I discovered the bike had a previously installed power commander so I looked up a map as close to what I have and tried to load it because of a miss at 3000 rpm. The power commander would not communicate with two different computers so I swapped it out with a fuel pak I purchased and used the map from them. Still have this nasty miss at the same rpm, called Vance and Hines back we modified the MAP and now the miss has moved from 2500 to 3500. Checked valve adj, changed spark plugs and tried it again same results. Going to get another MAP Any other ideas?
First time I did twin cams pretty sure they are timed or it wouldn't run would it?
After this next MAP change I guess the next step is to open it up again and verify the cams unless anyone has some ideas.
Thread Starter
|
Stage IV
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
From: Washington
It runs but you can feel and hear a significant difference in the exhaust flow between the two cylinders.
Tourer
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 323
Likes: 1
From: long island ny
miss
check ur cam timing again !!!!!!!!!,remove the gears and check the cam marks
Last edited by bigdog1949; Apr 22, 2014 at 10:30 PM.
HDF Community Team
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 12,774
Likes: 2,606
From: san antonio
If you have the cams a tooth off, the bike will run, not good but it will start and run. Easiest way to check that condition is by compression. If cam timing is off, you don't have to pull the cam chest apart to check; check compression first. If cam timing is off, you will see a significant difference in compression from one cylinder to the other.
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,543
Likes: 19
From: Ashland Ohio
Check the cam timing as outlined by DJL. Then... quit buying crap like fuel packs. What is needed is TIMING adjustments, etc. You, (you don't know this.... yet) want a Flash tuner that one can either have a shop tune for you, or do it DIY.
The best option would be to convert your bike over to one that uses O2 sensors, and then you could use a device like TTS to dial the tune in better. Any bike 05up can be converted over for a few hundred dollars. The 'how-to-do is in the back of the TTS Tuning Guide Appendix A. One could call Dynojet and ask if the PV will support an 05/06 bike (that has been converted to O2 operation) and see if the PV would work.
If so? Either would be the best course of action for you.
The best option would be to convert your bike over to one that uses O2 sensors, and then you could use a device like TTS to dial the tune in better. Any bike 05up can be converted over for a few hundred dollars. The 'how-to-do is in the back of the TTS Tuning Guide Appendix A. One could call Dynojet and ask if the PV will support an 05/06 bike (that has been converted to O2 operation) and see if the PV would work.
If so? Either would be the best course of action for you.
Trending Topics
Tourer
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 440
Likes: 7
From: wisconsin
HD Forum Stories
The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles
Verdad Gallardo
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever
Pouria Savadkouei
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever
Pouria Savadkouei
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In
Verdad Gallardo
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?
Verdad Gallardo
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept
Verdad Gallardo
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II
Verdad Gallardo
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy
Joe Kucinski
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026
Verdad Gallardo
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post