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Old Feb 1, 2015 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Spanners39
Scribe it, press it, ride it....don't overthink it, we are talking stone-age technology and one degree or another each way is not gonna be noticed by your butt....
Agreed, this is why I wondered ... what we are talking is the difference thickness of a piece of paper (a degree).

I wondered how shops/makers got them on accurately without a key in the first place ... wondered if this was one part of the equation between a good 'un and a bad 'un. (The other being squish/compression which is also variable).

I don't have one for the Evo, I am ashamed to say. I see Accurate-Engineering make a nice bespoke one.
 

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Old Feb 1, 2015 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dun Roamin
Agreed, this is why I wondered ... what we are talking is the difference thickness of a piece of paper (a degree).

I wondered how shops/makers got them on accurately without a key in the first place ... wondered if this was one part of the equation between a good 'un and a bad 'un. (The other being squish/compression which is also variable).

I don't have one for the Evo, I am ashamed to say. I see Accurate-Engineering make a nice bespoke one.
I'd rather a wheel on the pinion side, here's a tool and some reading.

https://www.delkron-mfg.com/products...structions.pdf
 
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 08:03 PM
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So I was just reminiscing from last year's inquiry to see if I missed anything, and thank god for leaking gaskets or I may have just slapped in a cam and lifters. So I'm reminded that it may be tricky to swap the cam gear over, I have a press, it's getting it to be where it should be. How is scribeing a line on old gear going to line up with a scribe on new cam ???
There is no key way or anything? How does the gear not move over time ???
 
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by glidein wide
So I was just reminiscing from last year's inquiry to see if I missed anything, and thank god for leaking gaskets or I may have just slapped in a cam and lifters. So I'm reminded that it may be tricky to swap the cam gear over, I have a press, it's getting it to be where it should be. How is scribeing a line on old gear going to line up with a scribe on new cam ???
There is no key way or anything? How does the gear not move over time ???
When you look at the cam, on the cam itself behind the gear there is a notch/flat spot. You will place 2 scribe marks on your gear, one on each side of the notch/flat spot. When pressed off these scribe marks will be used for alignment on new cam to the same notch/flat spot. You will see when you are ready to do this that it is not as hard as it sounds.
 

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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by apples402
When you look at the cam, on the cam itself behind the gear there is a notch/flat spot. You will place 2 scribe marks on your gear, one on each side of the notch/flat spot. When pressed off these scribe marks will be used for alignment on new cam to the same notch/flat spot. You will see when you are ready to do this that it is not as hard as it sounds.
Thanks man, that sounds easy enough, wasn't sure what I was supposed to go by...
 
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 09:45 PM
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No problem, I was leery too....
 
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Old Jan 9, 2016 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by glidein wide
There is no key way or anything? How does the gear not move over time ???
I often wonder that too ... I guess it's all down to the tensile and compressive strengths of steel, and 'interference fit'.

Heat the cog (expansion), freeze the cam (contraction), and if you're quick it should drop right in before they equal out and interfere.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2016 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by glidein wide
There is no key way or anything? How does the gear not move over time ???
By being a precision fit, as Donald indicates. The two parts are precision machined to a high degree of accuracy, before being assembled. Not much power is transmitted through that join, so ne key is necessary, although one would obviously help with alignment!
 
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I wonder if the "no key" was an after thought?

I mean, for swopping, replacing and degreeing, it would have been more helpful to have had a line, and some measured scores, e.g. 2° and 4° lines on each side of a middle.
 
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When comparing cams,if you measure top of lobe to opposite end(base) ,shouldn't a higher lift cam be a little more than stock? Or am misunderstanding the term"lift".
Thought it would be taller lobe to actually lift rockers higher thus opening valve more.
My stock and ev27 close to same measurement but duration was obviously different.
Just curious.... knowledge is power....
 
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