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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 09:57 AM
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 09:58 AM
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Is a Sputhe block motor different then a S&S motor? Saw one with S&S cylinders and that name on it on a custom built by an outfit in VA,Beach. Does in just bolt in to the transmission and standard mounts on a Harley?
Sputhe and S&S are different companies, although both of them have made replacement parts for Harley engines over the years. Sputhe are in California, S&S in Wisconsin. It is quite likely that the engine you saw was made from parts from both those companies.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 10:40 AM
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I am not lugging it. Period. I never said I hit the throttle in 5th at 35. NOT Lugging it. That is about when I started to down shift. Now STFU.
Lighten up, Francis.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 10:47 AM
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I would replace or rebuild the oil pump at the very least pull it off to see if something obvious is letting the pressure bypass. May have simply had some debris go through and wipe out pump walls....
 
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 11:45 AM
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Lighten up, Francis.
Yeah you're right. Sorry
 
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by stevequad
Thanks John. I have both...a manual gauge, and a pressure switch. Both seem to be about the same. I had been riding to the shop, and was at 65mph, manual gauge was at 0, but light was not on, so I figured I had about 2 or 3 lbs. Oil temp was at 172c. It was a pretty warm day. Hope its not the block. It is a Sputhe block, and I would hate to go there.
Gauges are notoriously inaccurate. Maybe I missed it, did you try a switch? Harleys are not so much about pressure as they are about flow, so if you verify that it should relieve some stress.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 05:02 PM
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A couple things you did quote..."35 in fifth" and ..."no noise just light and low gauge reading". A quick thing you can try is to either replace your pressure spring or take it out and stretch it a little to see if it increases pressure. If it does infact come up a bit then I would definitely repair or replace the oil pump. Another thing you said "oil temp 172c" if that was indeed correct then in fahrenheit that would be 341* definitely high. Also living in southern cal with the high ambient temps and "i am only saying possibly" a lean condition in the motor it will also create the same scenario. I do know that when I ride into Manhattan it doesn't even take 15 minutes and my oil temp is up and the motor gets noisy. You do have a built motor, Don't you?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 05:25 PM
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My mistake. 172f. I did replace the pressure spring with a new one (yellow) from a spring kit. No change. The pump only has about 3k miles on it. I did a complete lower end rebuild then. New rods, bearing, rings, pistons, cam, SS oil pump (standard) and new crank pin. Bennett performance in Long Beach did the replacement of the Crank pin, rods, boring the jugs etc, and put the case back together with new bearings. I put it back in the bike, and put everything back on the motor. I was sure to prime the pump also before start up. Bore is 3.80, stroke is 4.625, Red shif 647 cam, Branch Heads, valves etc, Rhinehart exhaust, Mikuni 45 carb. Dyna 2000 ignition, SS lifters with limiters, and an SS reed valve in place of the breather gear.
The oil gauge and pressure switch share the line where the lifter screen is. And it is clear. Changed the oil last week and it was very clean. No sparkles, and no metal on the magnet. I am hoping that it is just bleeding in the cam cover, and not a cracked block. Yes it is a built motor, but not 'hog wild'.
And contrary to some, I do not lug this motor.
Last dyno was 107hp, and 115lbs tq.
 
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Originally Posted by stevequad
My mistake. 172f. I did replace the pressure spring with a new one (yellow) from a spring kit. No change. The pump only has about 3k miles on it. I did a complete lower end rebuild then. New rods, bearing, rings, pistons, cam, SS oil pump (standard) and new crank pin. Bennett performance in Long Beach did the replacement of the Crank pin, rods, boring the jugs etc, and put the case back together with new bearings. I put it back in the bike, and put everything back on the motor. I was sure to prime the pump also before start up. Bore is 3.80, stroke is 4.625, Red shif 647 cam, Branch Heads, valves etc, Rhinehart exhaust, Mikuni 45 carb. Dyna 2000 ignition, SS lifters with limiters, and an SS reed valve in place of the breather gear.
The oil gauge and pressure switch share the line where the lifter screen is. And it is clear. Changed the oil last week and it was very clean. No sparkles, and no metal on the magnet. I am hoping that it is just bleeding in the cam cover, and not a cracked block. Yes it is a built motor, but not 'hog wild'.Last dyno was 107hp, and 115lbs tq.


Damn man what would you consider hog wild????

ps I like the right side primary, horn, and kickstand in your sig pic!!!
 
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 06:34 PM
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When my 97 FLHTCU had no oil pressure hot it turned out that the bottom end was wiped out. Had Zach over a Kendall Johnson Customs rebuild the bottom end and all was rite with the world. YMMV
 
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