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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr.Hess
Factory Service Manual. You need one. Everyone needs one. NOT THAT WE WON'T/CAN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, it's just that everyone needs one.

I would raise the front wheel, pull the axle out, unscrew the drive from the cable, see if a short piece of cable doesn't come out the cable sheath when you tug on it. Spin the cable with your fingers and see if the needle on the speedo moves. If it does, the sender is shot. If not, the cable is shot. I've gone through so many of them that I just replace both now and only use HD parts.
Ah. Yes, I have a PDF copy of it. But it seems like every time I use it to replace a part, I have to keep backtracking and researching other items; remove this (research how), remove that (research how). It seems to want to take me around the world on some things.

First World problems, I know.

Is it necessary to pull the axle out? I'm not sure I'm comfortable doing that. Can I remove the speedo drive and try your suggestion without messing with the wheel? Sorry to be so naive, but I haven't yet put it on the wheel chock to explore.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 08:49 PM
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Ah. Yes, I have a PDF copy of it. But it seems like every time I use it to replace a part, I have to keep backtracking and researching other items; remove this (research how), remove that (research how). It seems to want to take me around the world on some things.

First World problems, I know.

Is it necessary to pull the axle out? I'm not sure I'm comfortable doing that. Can I remove the speedo drive and try your suggestion without messing with the wheel? Sorry to be so naive, but I haven't yet put it on the wheel chock to explore.
If you have a PDF you don't have a FSM (Factory Service Manual).
Do yourself a favor and get a FSM.
Here's a link
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HARLEY-DAVI...pa39~l&vxp=mtr

Yes you have to take the axle out.
Sounds like you need to buy a motorcycle jack (if you plan on doing your own work that is).
 
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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by texashillcountry
If you have a PDF you don't have a FSM (Factory Service Manual).
Do yourself a favor and get a FSM.
Here's a link
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HARLEY-DAVI...pa39~l&vxp=mtr

Yes you have to take the axle out.
Sounds like you need to buy a motorcycle jack (if you plan on doing your own work that is).
I may just have to take it to a shop. I know an indy that's right across the street from a Harley dealer.

This chock has worked well for me because I don't mind working from the floor, but I'm not sure I could feasibly remove the axle.

Just to clarify.... let's say that I'm betting that the problem is the cable, so I buy a cable.

Would I still have to remove the axle just to replace the cable? Or is that just necessary for performing the above tests?
 

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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 09:03 PM
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I may just have to take it to a shop. I know an indy that's right across the street from a Harley dealer.

This chock has worked well for me because I don't mind working from the floor, but I'm not sure I could feasibly remove the axle.
Without a jack I wouldn't recommend trying to pull an axle.

If you decide to try it yourself we can walk you through it and if you learn how to work on your own bike you will save a ton of money over the course of time.

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Just to clarify.... let's say that I'm betting that the problem is the cable, so I buy a cable.

Would I still have to remove the axle just to replace the cable? Or is that just necessary for performing the above tests?
You don't have to remove the axle to replace the speedo cable but you do have to remove the left tank.
 

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Originally Posted by texashillcountry
If you have a PDF you don't have a FSM (Factory Service Manual).
Do yourself a favor and get a FSM.
Here's a link
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HARLEY-DAVI...pa39~l&vxp=mtr
You've convinced me; I'm getting a REAL service manual for it. This PDF is a book that covers 1984-1999:



Plus, it was apparently scanned as images instead of text, so it's not searchable.

I contacted the seller in the link to ask if there's a price at which he would end it earlier. I don't like auctions with no Buy It Now option.

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You don't have to remove the axle to replace the speedo cable but you do have to remove the left tank.
That sounds more feasible to me. I haven't removed a tank before but I'm pretty sure I can handle it. With axles and wheels, I always worry about getting spacers wrong, etc....

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Originally Posted by Windseeker
You've convinced me; I'm getting a REAL service manual for it. This PDF is a book that covers 1984-1999:



Plus, it was apparently scanned as images instead of text, so it's not searchable.

I contacted the seller in the link to ask if there's a price at which he would end it earlier. I don't like auctions with no Buy It Now option.
Just so you know one of HDForums rules is no recommending PDF manuals.
That said I have the one you are looking at and must tell you a paper manual is a better choice IMO.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by texashillcountry
Just so you know one of HDForums rules is no recommending PDF manuals.
That said I have the one you are looking at and must tell you a paper manual is a better choice IMO.
Believe me, I don't recommend it. That's why I'm getting the real thing.

Since the one you linked to covers specifically 1993-1994 Softails, it should be much easier to use.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 09:27 PM
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Believe me, I don't recommend it. That's why I'm getting the real thing.

Since the one you linked to covers specifically 1993-1994 Softails, it should be much easier to use.
The information it contains will be specific to your bike.
The PDF has all the information for all the years and you have to sort through what is useful to you and what is useless info due to the many upgrades the MOCO made to the softails over the years it was built.
 
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Originally Posted by texashillcountry
The information it contains will be specific to your bike.
The PDF has all the information for all the years and you have to sort through what is useful to you and what is useless info due to the many upgrades the MOCO made to the softails over the years it was built.
Exactly. It's a pain to use for that reason. I've always hated manuals that cover many different models of something and make me dig for specifics on the item I have.

I naively thought that it was actually a scan of the real factory manual. The paper one, once I get it, will be the real thing. Frankly, I can't wait to have the real thing for my specific bike.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2018 | 06:05 AM
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how difficult is it to unscrew the cable from the speedometer? if you can do that, tape the end from the speedo to the handlebars. take a ride around the block to see if the inner cable spins. if it spins the cable and drive is good.
 
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