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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 08:56 PM
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Default coil/ ignition

1998 softail heritage classic (carbed)
havent rode the bike in a while due to work committments.
was sputtering a bit in first gear, i figured it was just some cob webs from sitting, then i was in 5th gear and the bike died, i coasted into a parking lot and after about 15 minutes it fired back up.
once i got to where i store it it would no longer start, it turns over fine and all the lights etc etc work.
i pulled the plug wires and didnt notice any spark.
I have a credit owed to me at a local shop and they said they would order me a new coil and wires and asked what kind i would want.

accell? twin power? s&s?
dual fire? single? etc etc

you guys have any preference ?

thanks in advance for any info.....
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 09:08 PM
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I'm willing to bet a lot of money that your coil is find and your problem is in your pickup.
What you are describing is almost textbook ignition pickup failure.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by texashillcountry
I'm willing to bet a lot of money that your coil is find and your problem is in your pickup.
What you are describing is almost textbook ignition pickup failure.

ugh, swapping out a ignition has always freaked me out. I hate electronics.

and thanks for the advice, I assumed that could be the problem as well but pray fully avoided thinking about it lol.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 09:33 PM
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I like the Dynatek 2ki.
Easy to install and helps so much with cold starts.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2020 | 05:44 AM
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Hey Khennion,
If you find it is the ignition pickup you could always replace the failed/failing unit with a cost effective stock replacement.
Simple procedure with a plug end.
Good luck whichever path you choose.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2020 | 07:17 AM
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You never stated if you had the original ignition or not. If it is original ignition follow these steps with wireing color coding...On your next ride carry a alligator clip ground wire with you and when it dies on the side of road pull a plug put it back in the wire and rest it on the cylinder head.. turn your ignition on and then put the alligator clip to the ground side of the coil (the pink wire) not the white wire, white wire is hot (12v) and then just momentarily touch it to the cylinder head real quick like you're triggering a signal from the nose cone pickup.. if you get spark you know it's not your coil plugs or wires.. At that point it's either your ignition module or the nose cone pick up.. You really should have a factory service manual so you can test your ignition properly. And if you suspect it's the pickup in the nose cone then Standard Motor Products makes an excellent replacement for your bike for $40. You can find it on eBay or Amazon.. Their part number is MC-SPA3. It's a direct replacement..

And like the others have said most likely it is the nose cone pickup..

Another thing to check just to make sure is that your fuel petcock is feeding enough fuel to the carburetor it's possible that it could be that too, which would cause the waiter time to refill the bowl with fuel...
 

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Old Jul 5, 2020 | 11:05 AM
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Awesome advise guys...i appreciate all the input. it always amazes me how knowledgeable people are on this forum
i keep the bike at my familys garage so i only get to tinker with it on the weekends....
ill go the cheap route with wires and a pick up and give it a crack this week.

(the bike is new to me somewhat and i havent even cracked the nose cone open yet)

thanks again, stay safe guys
 
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Old Jul 5, 2020 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by khennion
Awesome advise guys...i appreciate all the input. it always amazes me how knowledgeable people are on this forum
i keep the bike at my familys garage so i only get to tinker with it on the weekends....
ill go the cheap route with wires and a pick up and give it a crack this week.

(the bike is new to me somewhat and i havent even cracked the nose cone open yet)

thanks again, stay safe guys

ps.
any thoughts on this being the Crank position sensor as the problem? My last harley had that problem and it was a pretty simple fix.
 
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Originally Posted by khennion
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any thoughts on this being the Crank position sensor as the problem? My last harley had that problem and it was a pretty simple fix.
Ignition pick up and cam position sensor are the same thing.
A crank position sensor is something entirely different.
A carbed bike doesn't use a crank position sensor.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2020 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by texashillcountry
Ignition pick up and cam position sensor are the same thing.
A crank position sensor is something entirely different.
A carbed bike doesn't use a crank position sensor.

and this is why I come to this forum.
thanks again.
 
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