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There's plenty of daylight just looking in there at the cams. The only touch on the tips and valleys until you get some torque on them. I looked some more and the inner bearing spacer was a xxxxx-70 up until '97.
Even if both rotor washers were missing it wouldn't add up to 1/4" and yeah, if the rotor ever hit anything a deaf man would hear it.
Whatever is amiss, it has to be the compensator extension shaft mis-matched or maybe a '98-up clutch assembly and the hub too long for the other parts. I can't say, been lucky and never had to decipher too many things on these...
I've got the washer spacers, compensator, rotor, not sure if I have a loose sprocket shaft extension laying around. It'd be tomorrow before I could measure any of it. Let me know, be glad to if it'll help.
Even if both rotor washers were missing it wouldn't add up to 1/4" and yeah, if the rotor ever hit anything a deaf man would hear it.
Whatever is amiss, it has to be the compensator extension shaft mis-matched or maybe a '98-up clutch assembly and the hub too long for the other parts. I can't say, been lucky and never had to decipher too many things on these...
I've got the washer spacers, compensator, rotor, not sure if I have a loose sprocket shaft extension laying around. It'd be tomorrow before I could measure any of it. Let me know, be glad to if it'll help.
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I'll take some pics today and see if I can pull the compensator off this evening. Does the clutch basked have to come off on these softail type units when you pull the compensator? Saw a yootoobe where it didn't, but, you know yootoobz. Needless to say, the chain has plenty of play in it. I doubt the bike has 5K miles on it. Probably closer to 2K since it was put together.
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I'll take some pics today and see if I can pull the compensator off this evening. Does the clutch basked have to come off on these softail type units when you pull the compensator? Saw a yootoobe where it didn't, but, you know yootoobz. Needless to say, the chain has plenty of play in it. I doubt the bike has 5K miles on it. Probably closer to 2K since it was put together.
You have a spline clutch so shouldn't be any trouble to get it off. I don't have any shaft extensions off to measure, but older Softails do call for a different number ext. from short primary bikes. No matter what, if the rotor and all fit up well, you're looking for something from there > out.
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Yeah, compensator needs to come off to correct that. You have a pipe wrench don't you? LOL just kidding.
That's the '98 up clutch but my books show the same shaft extension. The older ones had a thin shoulder that set against the rotor/spacer/shims. The thicker shoulder xxxxx -85 part is same for most of them. I don't have one out, but the shoulder that's inboard is about 3/16 - 1/4. The earlier and some Softails and later Shovels used the xxxx-70 with a thin shoulder. The "normal" spacer washer behind that extension is about 1/8 but I've not measured the one I have (somewhere).
Either way, get out the 1-1/2" and get the compensator nut, spring washer and sliding cam off. You can slide the sprocket out enough to see the shoulder of the extension and washer if it has one.
That's the '98 up clutch but my books show the same shaft extension. The older ones had a thin shoulder that set against the rotor/spacer/shims. The thicker shoulder xxxxx -85 part is same for most of them. I don't have one out, but the shoulder that's inboard is about 3/16 - 1/4. The earlier and some Softails and later Shovels used the xxxx-70 with a thin shoulder. The "normal" spacer washer behind that extension is about 1/8 but I've not measured the one I have (somewhere).
Either way, get out the 1-1/2" and get the compensator nut, spring washer and sliding cam off. You can slide the sprocket out enough to see the shoulder of the extension and washer if it has one.
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Yeah, compensator needs to come off to correct that. You have a pipe wrench don't you? LOL just kidding.
That's the '98 up clutch but my books show the same shaft extension. The older ones had a thin shoulder that set against the rotor/spacer/shims. The thicker shoulder xxxxx -85 part is same for most of them. I don't have one out, but the shoulder that's inboard is about 3/16 - 1/4. The earlier and some Softails and later Shovels used the xxxx-70 with a thin shoulder. The "normal" spacer washer behind that extension is about 1/8 but I've not measured the one I have (somewhere).
Either way, get out the 1-1/2" and get the compensator nut, spring washer and sliding cam off. You can slide the sprocket out enough to see the shoulder of the extension and washer if it has one.
That's the '98 up clutch but my books show the same shaft extension. The older ones had a thin shoulder that set against the rotor/spacer/shims. The thicker shoulder xxxxx -85 part is same for most of them. I don't have one out, but the shoulder that's inboard is about 3/16 - 1/4. The earlier and some Softails and later Shovels used the xxxx-70 with a thin shoulder. The "normal" spacer washer behind that extension is about 1/8 but I've not measured the one I have (somewhere).
Either way, get out the 1-1/2" and get the compensator nut, spring washer and sliding cam off. You can slide the sprocket out enough to see the shoulder of the extension and washer if it has one.
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If you look at your tensioner shoe it looks like the chain has "moved" in some from the wear grooves, or it's a shoe from a different set up. Just a thought.
I dealt with this when I went from a comp. sprocket to the comp. eliminator. The eliminator needed to be offset so it could be aligned properly. It made a horrible noise while running and the chain started eating through the tensioner bracket.
Never did hit the inner primary, though.
I dealt with this when I went from a comp. sprocket to the comp. eliminator. The eliminator needed to be offset so it could be aligned properly. It made a horrible noise while running and the chain started eating through the tensioner bracket.
Never did hit the inner primary, though.
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Yes, I noticed that extra groove in the shoe. Again, hard to say what is new and what was salvaged on this bike. Motor was new, frame was new. I think most of the rest was used. Not sure about that clutch, it looks pretty clean.
In the first pic, you can see where the chain was eating on the inner primary at the bottom, forward of the tensioner. There's a bolt right there too that is missing the top millimeter or so. I made a pic from the back sighting down the chain to the front, but you can't really tell the chain angling in from the pic.
Time to get the pipe wrench out. I saw it on a yootoobe. Nice 12" pipe wrench on that sucker, kick it with your boot and it comes right off. JUST KIDDING. I did see it on a youtube, though. I use a giant adjustable wrench. OK, OK, I USED TO use a giant adjustable wrench and a turn buckle, but I'm big time now and use a rattle gun. Whole lot less work.
In the first pic, you can see where the chain was eating on the inner primary at the bottom, forward of the tensioner. There's a bolt right there too that is missing the top millimeter or so. I made a pic from the back sighting down the chain to the front, but you can't really tell the chain angling in from the pic.
Time to get the pipe wrench out. I saw it on a yootoobe. Nice 12" pipe wrench on that sucker, kick it with your boot and it comes right off. JUST KIDDING. I did see it on a youtube, though. I use a giant adjustable wrench. OK, OK, I USED TO use a giant adjustable wrench and a turn buckle, but I'm big time now and use a rattle gun. Whole lot less work.