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I have a 93 electra glide and I've taken the dive to upgrade my inner fairing to the Metra 95-hdif. That part is intended for 96-13 bikes.
Problem is the 93 has very little in common with the 96 and up design.
So I come to you guys to help out. OEM HD takeout gauge sets (with a mechanical speedo) are pretty rare. I believe the small gauges are 2-1/8" and the speedo and tach are 3-5/8", but I can't find anything definitive.
Can someone confirm for me the diameter of the large and small gauges in the 96-13 FLH / FLT bikes?
Is there a need to upgrade it or is this just something you like that looks better ?
That's a very ambitious upgrade, if I recall correctly the instrument connectors are not compatible with the older style harness. There's a boat load of wiring to sort through - I believe Schex (post above) did this recently. It can be done but trying to find all the correct small pieces could be a challenge. Are you upgrading the hand controls as well ?
3 3/8" for speedo and tach
2 1/16" for the smaller gauges
Thank you sir.
Originally Posted by rizzo
Is there a need to upgrade it or is this just something you like that looks better ?
That's a very ambitious upgrade, if I recall correctly the instrument connectors are not compatible with the older style harness. There's a boat load of wiring to sort through - I believe Schex (post above) did this recently. It can be done but trying to find all the correct small pieces could be a challenge. Are you upgrading the hand controls as well ?
My inner fairing is getting very brittle and spider cracking in lots of places and finding NOS or used in better shape than mine is proving impossible...so I gave up. Figured if I have to go to the newer style, why not have touch screen, wireless android auto and a kick *** pair of ds18 6.5's.
Last winter I installed apes, new radio and amp with hogtunes 4.25" factory replacements and I can't hear the damn tunes at cruising speed. So all my supporting electronics and wiring updates are already done, as well as handlebar wiring and radio controls retained. Now its a matter of fitting the old anniversary style painted outer fairing to the new inner. I'm fully expecting to have to get a new outer fairing too, but I will line up the old one first before accepting my fate.
Beyond that, it should just be fitting the new inner to the bike which should bolt right up, new ignition cap and switches, and gauges. I don't fully know what to expect on the gauge front, even if I can get a match set with a mechanical speedo, but wiring is wiring. Tedious but doable. If switching connectors around is the worst of it, then it won't be that bad. Im actually considering a custom set with a GPS speedo to simplify things even more. But only if I can find a set with an air temp gauge...or a hole plug with usb power or something like that.
The outer fairings are very different - pre '96 has a solid piece under the headlight and all the mounting points are different. Schex has the parts you can use as direct replacements - might be worth looking into ...
My old outer fairing is real nice, the inner is brittle also, mostly around the radio area, and it was cracked on the side when i got it, repaired it with panel bond, so inner is not to good.
You will need #'s 18 &19 to mount that inner fairing to your bike, also #22 & 23
Then for the ignition switch, panel # 21
I used a top triple tree off a '00 to '07, that is to mount the newer style ignition switch, I used a '06 - '09 style switch, you will loose the fork lock unless you weld a tab on the frame, I didn't worry about a fork lock.
You'll need to find a front fairing from '98 - '13, your old one is not going to work, and also need the panel #8 that goes under the head light, there's plenty out there.
Ebay and FB marketplace are your friend for used parts, for example I paid $25 for a top tree.
Mounting the fairing is the easy part, dealing with the gauges and wiring is another story
Update time. I powered it up last night and almost everything worked! Pics attached of its current state.
One thing that I need some help with is the oil pressure gauge. When powered to accessory, the oil pressure is pegged to 60psi. Wiring is correct, been over that several times. I think the problem is the sending unit is different between 93 and 96. But Ronnies microfiche and DennisKirk both agree that the oil pressure switch is a single post (for low oil light only), not a double (for pressure and low oil light).
Anyone know what part I need to make my oil pressure gauge work?
Edit...seems I might have the sending unit wire grounded somewhere....back to the wiring
Edit Again...yup, wiring is right. But if I unplug the signal wire and put it to ground, the gauge pegs, so its acting like the signal wire is grounded in both accessory and run positions.
Im not ready to fire this thing up yet, (and it would be a long shot) but any chance the ground switches with the bike running?
Last edited by Idiocracy; May 5, 2022 at 03:43 PM.
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One thing that I need some help with is the oil pressure gauge. When powered to accessory, the oil pressure is pegged to 60psi. Wiring is correct, been over that several times. I think the problem is the sending unit is different between 93 and 96. But Ronnies microfiche and DennisKirk both agree that the oil pressure switch is a single post (for low oil light only), not a double (for pressure and low oil light).
Anyone know what part I need to make my oil pressure gauge work?
Originally Posted by t150vej
Post a pic of your oil sender on the engine.
Disregard the above request, I didn't read thoroughly before posting.
Wrong - it takes a double terminal oil pressure sending unit part# 74406-87 still available from MoCo, and is the same for all Evo Touring that came equipped with a gauge. There are 3 terminals on the gauge (+) orange (-) black (S) br/gn if they haven't changed the (S) colors at some point.
The gauge and sender were both by VDO and that particular one is a floating ground and works backward of most - more resistance the higher it should read, less resistance lower it reads.
Disregard the above request, I didn't read thoroughly before posting.
Wrong - it takes a double terminal oil pressure sending unit part# 74406-87 still available from MoCo, and is the same for all Evo Touring that came equipped with a gauge. There are 3 terminals on the gauge (+) orange (-) black (S) br/gn if they haven't changed the (S) colors at some point.
The gauge and sender were both by VDO and that particular one is a floating ground and works backward of most - more resistance the higher it should read, less resistance lower it reads.
You are dead on with wire color, and the double terminal sending unit. So it sounds like you are saying that when there is actual pressure, the gauge should function properly. Power / Ground / signal all come straight from the original harness for the 93, so there is no tie in with all the wiring for the other gauges / radio / speakers.
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Upgrading inner fairing
