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Old Aug 30, 2024 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan89FLSTC


I just replaced all bearings and seals in the 5 speed on my `89 Softail (it ate the dipstick), using all OEM parts, there was no made in China stuff, all good quality parts.
I'd read about the dipstick eating problem.
I bought a Baker before it happened so I'll never know now I guess.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2024 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Yankee Dog
Take your time, and if unsure, stop and ask questions here. Bring it all back to the original stock set up using OEM parts.

My first time around, I went with the "high torque" bearing set up as it did save a little time and a few bucks, but ended up going back to the original set up as I developed a minor leak at the aftermarket "high torque" bearing seal. So much for saving a little time and a few bucks.

I don't trust made in china bearings and seals. I know we are limited as to where we can get parts, but if buying OEM seals and bearings, they are better than the amazon or ebay stuff. My current IPB race is "made in Mexico" OEM, and my current IPB is a new old stock made in USA bearing. Seals are OEM made in USA, front pulley is Andrews, and main shaft 5th gear is Andrews.

I have no problems with made in Japan bearings either.

Can't stress the factory manual to assist you. And again, ask questions. Any youtube video regarding the 5 speed will be the same regardless of it being a twinkie or an evo. Maybe a little difference on how the inner primary bolts up and a different style clutch, but that's about it.

search in youtube: "harley 5 speed inner primary"
Good advice, thanks.
 
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You mentioned "winter project" and that's one of the few positive things about winter for us northern boys. Gives us time to make the repairs or do maintenance while waiting out the cold stuff. Hope you have heat in your garage/shop. The thing I hate is when done with a winter repair and you can't take the bike out for a test ride because there is still 12 inches of snow on the ground!

Start putting together the parts now. Also consider upgrades to the shifter mechanism and drum. At least do a little reading about it. Dan89FLSTC has numerous posts about it and I have few posts. My upgrade was done with used parts and pretty affordable especially if you have the time to look for "deals" or good used low mileage parts at a good price.

Also while your in there, how old/mileage on your belt? Your going to already be in there so worth the consideration. Said it before and I will say it again, it's always the "might as well" that really drives the cost of a "simple job" way up. However, in the long run it's worth it not having to go back in' or "wish I did this" or "wish I did that" type of thing.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2024 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Yankee Dog
You mentioned "winter project" and that's one of the few positive things about winter for us northern boys. Gives us time to make the repairs or do maintenance while waiting out the cold stuff. Hope you have heat in your garage/shop. The thing I hate is when done with a winter repair and you can't take the bike out for a test ride because there is still 12 inches of snow on the ground!

Start putting together the parts now. Also consider upgrades to the shifter mechanism and drum. At least do a little reading about it. Dan89FLSTC has numerous posts about it and I have few posts. My upgrade was done with used parts and pretty affordable especially if you have the time to look for "deals" or good used low mileage parts at a good price.

Also while your in there, how old/mileage on your belt? Your going to already be in there so worth the consideration. Said it before and I will say it again, it's always the "might as well" that really drives the cost of a "simple job" way up. However, in the long run it's worth it not having to go back in' or "wish I did this" or "wish I did that" type of thing.

Good idea about the belt, thanks.
 
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It isn't a winter project, if you haven't done it before, it will take about 5 hours...3 once you get used to it. A rainy day job for sure but worth the effort.
 
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Originally Posted by Spanners39
It isn't a winter project, if you haven't done it before, it will take about 5 hours...3 once you get used to it. A rainy day job for sure but worth the effort.
I thought it would be longer.
I work pretty slow.
 
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Originally Posted by johnod
I thought it would be longer.
I work pretty slow.
Always good to take your time but it really isn't as huge a job as you might think.
 
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and grab an S&S inner primary race while you are spending money on parts, you will not regret it as they don't walk up or down the mainshaft and destroy the seals and cause oil leaks.
 
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Originally Posted by Spanners39
and grab an S&S inner primary race while you are spending money on parts, you will not regret it as they don't walk up or down the mainshaft and destroy the seals and cause oil leaks.

This is better than the HD part?
 
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Originally Posted by johnod
This is better than the HD part?
Beyond better by some magnitude as the HD part can walk up the shaft and destroy either the inner primary seal, or the wedding band seal and that causes....oil leaks and you don't want the ones you have got, let alone new ones.
 
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