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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 02:39 PM
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Default Cam Bushing Wear in nose cone '99 FLSTC cam swap

99 FLSTC Heritage Softail (Evo) - Comp Cams V-Thunder EVL-3020

I changed my cam and didn't swap the gears. Took it apart to inspect and had wear on the cam bushing installed in nose cone. It is not really bad but I'm also getting a whur whining noise at maybe 2500 rpm when I hold the throttle steady. Sounds almost like something rubbing from vibration but can't isolate where it's coming from. It wasn't doing this before and I found the tiny gold flakes in the oil and it's not gold any longer on the face that touches the cam gear indicated in the photo. I failed to take a Pic when I had it apart.

I should probably change this bushing and swap the gears on the cam I'm assuming? Anything else that could cause this? Should I absolutely change the bushing and how hard is this to do?

End play on cam was .012-.015


 
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If the bushing gets too worn, the pinion and cam gears will get noisy, it will sound like lifter clatter.

If the gears are too tight, it will cause a whine.

If you replace that bushing, you will have to get it reamed (this is not something a dealer service dept will do these days, you will need to find a grey beard independent shop for this).

I suggest first swapping the old gear onto the new cam.
 

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Originally Posted by Dan89FLSTC
If the bushing gets too worn, the pinion and cam gears will get noisy, it will sound like lifter clatter.

If the gears are too tight, it will cause a whine.

If you replace that bushing, you will have to get it reamed (this is not something a dealer service dept will do these days, you will need to find a grey beard independent shop for this).

I suggest first swapping the old gear onto the new cam.

Follow this advice exactly............ Couldn't' have said it better...
 
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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 05:09 PM
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Put an indicator on the end of the shaft and roll the engine over a few times, that can tell you several things.
 
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
Put an indicator on the end of the shaft and roll the engine over a few times, that can tell you several things.
You mean to check runout on the cam?
 
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Originally Posted by Dan89FLSTC
If the bushing gets too worn, the pinion and cam gears will get noisy, it will sound like lifter clatter.

If the gears are too tight, it will cause a whine.

If you replace that bushing, you will have to get it reamed (this is not something a dealer service dept will do these days, you will need to find a grey beard independent shop for this).

I suggest first swapping the old gear onto the new cam.

Sheeiiit, OK thanks. It's more like a whine for now but sounds like it's coming from in front of gas tank while riding. I'll just swap the damn gears lol.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lando Evo
You mean to check runout on the cam?
No, the pinion shaft.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 07:53 PM
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What gear size on the EVL-3020, and did you match it to the same size that the old cam had?
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/engin...asurement.html

My guess, different size cam gear, and where the whine is coming from.

As for cam cover bushing swap, that one can be a nightmare, since the new bushing really needs to be reamed through the lower needle bearing case channel side, when the lower case is split.
There is getting some measurements off the old bushing still in the case cover with it in a mill, if you can determine where the cam is centering and angle'g it the old bushing in first place, then go with with a boring bar to open it up the new bushing at that center/tram line with case still in the mill, but still a semi crap shut, since you still guessing what the new ID bushing channel needs to be trammed/angled to in the first place to keep the both sides of cam aligned to each other.
 
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Originally Posted by Dan89FLSTC
If the bushing gets too worn, the pinion and cam gears will get noisy, it will sound like lifter clatter.

If the gears are too tight, it will cause a whine.

If you replace that bushing, you will have to get it reamed (this is not something a dealer service dept will do these days, you will need to find a grey beard independent shop for this).

I suggest first swapping the old gear onto the new cam.
Are you saying the gear will not fit in the bushing without reaming or something else?
Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by johnod
Are you saying the gear will not fit in the bushing without reaming or something else?
Thanks
Big end of the cam shaft, not the gear, some new bushing are too tight and will need sizing, other times you get lucky and they don't.
 
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