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Old Dec 17, 2025 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
Back in the 90s that ignition was always doing that i dont remember one that stayed working
OK fair enough. Is there another brand that is remote like this one? most of the aftermarket ones I see are self-contained inside of the nose cone.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2025 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
Back in the 90s that ignition was always doing that i dont remember one that stayed working
Daytona Twin Tec External Ignition Module - 3021 for Select Harley-Davidson Motorcycles - Dennis Kirk

This looks like it is similar but $650 is a lot of jack just to figure out if that's my problem. ugh
 
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Old Dec 17, 2025 | 06:29 PM
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That's going a little overboard to help find your problem plus that's for 95 up Harley bike with the Deutsche pin connectors. Best thing to do is to find a cheap Standalone ignition module that goes down into the nose cone for testing purposes you can find them under $100 here's one that I found for you on Amazon and I believe it's one or two days delivery

https://a.co/d/e8mbJma

But your issue to me still seems like carburetor related..
 

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Old Dec 17, 2025 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
That's going a little overboard to help find your problem plus that's for 95 up Harley bike with the Deutsche pin connectors. Best thing to do is to find a cheap Standalone ignition module that goes down into the nose cone for testing purposes you can find them under $100 here's one that I found for you on Amazon and I believe it's one or two days delivery

https://a.co/d/e8mbJma

But your issue to me still seems like carburetor related..
OK thanks 98hotrodfatboy That's a better option. I agree that it seems fuel related, but I'm just not sure.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2025 | 08:14 PM
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I have that same cam and ignition. I also had a similar issue. Ran fine just cruising around but would stumble at WOT. It turned out to be an intake leak.


 
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Old Dec 18, 2025 | 05:25 AM
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OP please confirm you really really thoroughly cleaned the negative battery terminal at both ends. Not just “felt tight” but removed cleaned to shiny bare metal and tightened back down.

Clean the solenoid connections the same way.

I think we’ve just about listed everything that it can possibly be. It’s one of the things we’ve mentioned that has been either overlooked or not checked.

The exact symptoms that you describe can be tank liner flakes clogging the petcock, a big enough motor demanding fuel and your petcock can’t keep up at wide-open throttle, an intake leak, a ground, a bad ignition, a bad coil. Way off jetting, bad plugs, clogged carb, fuel filter. It’s one of these things.

I bought a 1990 springer with 6K original miles that sat un-started for 25 years because the original owner had a shop do a bunch of bolt on stuff and it did EXACTLY what you describe. He let it sit 25 years because he couldn’t figure it out.

When I bought it it had three major problems. They all caused this. Each fix got better.. but it didn’t stop until I did all three. 1) tank liner Deteriorated and large flakes would block the petcock, only noticeable at wot. Fixed, better still did it. 2) pet **** had to be left in reserve to avoid fuel starve at wot (I’ve run across this many times) 3) the ground at the negative wire to the frame.

I was stubborn and didn’t remove/clean the negative at the frame because it was super tight and looked like it had never been messed with, no signs of deposits or dirt or anything on it so I stubbornly cleaned all connections on the bike, except for that stupid last ground to the frame.

The bike had 10:1 pistons, branch ported (mildly) heads, a EV51 cam, 2000 ignition, chromolly pushrods, roller rocker arms. The condition you Described only happened at wide-open throttle somewhere between 5000 and 7000 RPM.
 

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Old Dec 18, 2025 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
That's going a little overboard to help find your problem plus that's for 95 up Harley bike with the Deutsche pin connectors. Best thing to do is to find a cheap Standalone ignition module that goes down into the nose cone for testing purposes you can find them under $100 here's one that I found for you on Amazon and I believe it's one or two days delivery

https://a.co/d/e8mbJma

But your issue to me still seems like carburetor related..
I don't know chit about an SS carb, however, had same type of symptoms after my cam change and the fix was a larger main jet. Yes I checked all the usual suspects first (as mentioned in this thread) regarding electrical, module, intake seal, yada-yada... and it ended up being a simple jet change. This was before I had my wego fuel air monitor. Later, when I installed the wego, it confirmed the new larger jet was the right call and size.
 
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Originally Posted by Yankee Dog
I don't know chit about an SS carb, however, had same type of symptoms after my cam change and the fix was a larger main jet. Yes I checked all the usual suspects first (as mentioned in this thread) regarding electrical, module, intake seal, yada-yada... and it ended up being a simple jet change. This was before I had my wego fuel air monitor. Later, when I installed the wego, it confirmed the new larger jet was the right call and size.
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What was in the build and what jets did you go to?
The OP is up to a 74/.295 which should be plenty of fuel for the entire rpm range..
 
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@thsorens
When you took the carb apart to clean, did you remove the entire emulsion tube for the main jet from the carb body and check all the ports in it to confirm they are not clogged???
I would definitely do this to confirm..
 
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
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When you took the carb apart to clean, did you remove the entire emulsion tube for the main jet from the carb body and check all the ports in it to confirm they are not clogged???
I would definitely do this to confirm..
so here is what I have done. I removed the petcock and cleaned the filter screen, it had a few flakes on it but nothing serious. Also when draining the tank thru the petcock it seemed to flow pretty well. I will say that damn petcock will vibrate to "off" while riding if left on "reserve" which is super annoying so I might replace it anyways. Its a Pingel with no detents. I also found masking tape over the tank vent under the console so I opened that up and attached a chunk of hose to it hanging back and down. I took the negative cable off the frame and took sandpaper to it as well as removing both battery connections and cleaning them. I did remove the emulsion tube in the carb yes and btw there wasn't even a hint of dirt in the bowl so pretty clean to begin with. Adjusted the float level to sit a bit higher for more fuel capacity. I did not take the accelerator pump apart but I get a really good shot of fuel thru it so I doubt that's my problem. yes I'm at 74 and .295 and still when I am running at a higher rpm (no tach but I'd say 3500+rpm and higher) then twist the throttle all the way open it just pops violently like its starved for fuel. Super odd I hope I'm jsut missing something obvious but it certainly could be that old ignition module. Also interesting that it didn't do that before the cam change. I did change the ignition pickup with a brand new one from Dennis Kirk when doing the cam, but if that was bad or the wrong one I would think it would run bad (if at all) all the time, I mean it's just a pickup. Oh I've also replaced the plugs and the plug wires. I think I will pull the float bowl again but dont' really expect to find anything. I guess I could pull the carb off the shovel, also an SS super E and see if anything changes. Appreciate the help guys.
 

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