Ultima 127 problem
Tourer
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From: Richmond BC.
great thread.
Lots of useful comments from what started out as a gripe.
I have been pondering a 127 Ultima for my bagger.
Not for speed , but for torque and long distance riding.
I am prone to 8-10k mile summer trips.
It looks like the best way to go is buy it, tear it down, blueprint and balance it and upgrade some parts.
Hmmmm ..... more to ponder, its it really worth the hassle ?
Lots of useful comments from what started out as a gripe.
I have been pondering a 127 Ultima for my bagger.
Not for speed , but for torque and long distance riding.
I am prone to 8-10k mile summer trips.
It looks like the best way to go is buy it, tear it down, blueprint and balance it and upgrade some parts.
Hmmmm ..... more to ponder, its it really worth the hassle ?
Tourer
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From: Richmond BC.
Have had a problem the last couple of years, bike seams to run great till it gets 75+ degrees, I can be riding down the road and the engine will stop, pull off to the side of the road, start it up, go a couple of miles and same thing, has original Ultima, by the way it is a 127, ignition.Last night after 4 th stop, it would not start, pulled cone cover off, let it cool down a while, was about 7 pm, rode home. Am told it is probably the ignition module, 3 years old, less than 5,000 miles. Any thoughts, thanks.
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Cruiser
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From: Cheesehead threw and threw
Programable
Just got home and found my Ultima digital ignition system waiting, can a half way inteligent person instal it and is their any particular tricks to programing it ? Thanks
Tourer
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From: Richmond BC.
It already has the best curves for the Ultima engines programmed in. Follow the instructions, find TDC front cylinder turn the ignition till the light just goes out set it on curve #1 and ground the VOES wire once you have it running rev it up to over 1500 rpm and check to make sure your at the 2.5 mark on the flywheel with a timing light if it's set right shut it off unground the VOES wire, tape it up and set the switches probably to the 3rd curve and listen to make sure it doesn't ping up a hill with a heavy load, if it does you might have to go to curve 4 if not try curve 2 and make sure it doesn't ping there. You can custom design curves but you have to buy the programming kit with software I have it but find the 4 curves it has work just fine.
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From: Cheesehead threw and threw
It already has the best curves for the Ultima engines programmed in. Follow the instructions, find TDC front cylinder turn the ignition till the light just goes out set it on curve #1 and ground the VOES wire once you have it running rev it up to over 1500 rpm and check to make sure your at the 2.5 mark on the flywheel with a timing light if it's set right shut it off unground the VOES wire, tape it up and set the switches probably to the 3rd curve and listen to make sure it doesn't ping up a hill with a heavy load, if it does you might have to go to curve 4 if not try curve 2 and make sure it doesn't ping there. You can custom design curves but you have to buy the programming kit with software I have it but find the 4 curves it has work just fine.
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From: Richmond BC.
Just be real careful when you set it and turn the module back and forth so the light just goes out but make sure when you do it you have spark plugs on the coil wires as it can cause damage if left open circuited, also make sure you have spark to the front plug as it's easy to have them mixed up, set it to single fire.
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From: Cheesehead threw and threw
ignition
Just be real careful when you set it and turn the module back and forth so the light just goes out but make sure when you do it you have spark plugs on the coil wires as it can cause damage if left open circuited, also make sure you have spark to the front plug as it's easy to have them mixed up, set it to single fire.
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From: Bedford UK
I am pretty sure I can handle it. With the problems I have encountered w/this bike, I affectionately call it the "Shtbk", and what I have had to do to save money, I should be able to do it. If I run into a problem I will be posting. Thanks for your help and future help. lol
Best of luck.
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From: Cheesehead threw and threw
Bedtime
Got 4 hours of daylight here in Cheesehead land, draining tank now to get at coil, sweet dreams while I am ingulfed in this night mare. lol