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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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If the pinion engages the ring gear and the starter is turning over, then the clutch is no good. There is some heavy duty clutches out there.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by miacycles
If the pinion engages the ring gear and the starter is turning over, then the clutch is no good. There is some heavy duty clutches out there.
The pinion gear does engage the ring gear but that is all that happens, I will remove the starter and have it checked out and a heavy duty clutch installed, thanks John.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 08:33 AM
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I hear you on that but if its getting jumped its the same as having a good battery right?
A dead battery or a bad battery being jumped is not the same as having a good battery.
The bad/dead/damaged battery could cause resistance and suck-up several amps from the good battery at the most critical time (starting).
Using jumper cables also increases resistance(loss of power) do to length of wire.
If all components are not 100% to start it makes diagnosis difficult.
Consider rule-out of battery. A bad battery could give a click and have enough juice to engage but not enough to turn a motor over do to compression of motor.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by im
A dead battery or a bad battery being jumped is not the same as having a good battery.
The bad/dead/damaged battery could cause resistance and suck-up several amps from the good battery at the most critical time (starting).
Using jumper cables also increases resistance(loss of power) do to length of wire.
If all components are not 100% to start it makes diagnosis difficult.
Consider rule-out of battery. A bad battery could give a click and have enough juice to engage but not enough to turn a motor over do to compression of motor.
I believe what you are saying. That makes sense and the battery is on a 2 amp trickle charge right now. The bike never had this problem before it went into storage. If I can bring that gel battery back to life then we may be in business. more to come including pics!
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MichaelC
I believe what you are saying. That makes sense and the battery is on a 2 amp trickle charge right now. The bike never had this problem before it went into storage. If I can bring that gel battery back to life then we may be in business. more to come including pics!
You might want to do some PMCS on all the connections, grounds included in the starting circuit and check for spark as most electronic ignitions do not work if the voltage drops below about 9.5 volts depending on the ignition.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by miacycles
If the pinion engages the ring gear and the starter is turning over, then the clutch is no good. There is some heavy duty clutches out there.
Took the battery to be tested, it is ok, ordered a new starter from Altima today, about the same as rebuilding, will have the old starter rebuilt w/heavyer clutches down the road.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by choptop
Took the battery to be tested, it is ok, ordered a new starter from Altima today, about the same as rebuilding, will have the old starter rebuilt w/heavyer clutches down the road.
Hope you get to the root cause of this and get it fixed soon, man. A non-running Harley is a sad Harley. If you have a good battery and get the new Ultima starter installed, I'll bet your problems will be over.

Unless there's something wrong with the ignition... or the carb... or... never mind! One step at a time!
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthGeorgiaHawg
Hope you get to the root cause of this and get it fixed soon, man. A non-running Harley is a sad Harley. If you have a good battery and get the new Ultima starter installed, I'll bet your problems will be over.

Unless there's something wrong with the ignition... or the carb... or... never mind! One step at a time!
So true and the Shtbk has spent way to much time down since I bought it. Ignition new as of last weekend so the long running problem of dieing on me running on down the road was taken care of and she has always started, 1st try. Well sounds like the starter clutch, this Ultima starter was installed in June 2008, wish I could say it had a shtload of starts on it but with Wi. winters and just finding the time, that is not the case. Starter shows up on Friday, will, fingers crossed, have it runnig Saturday.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by choptop
So true and the Shtbk has spent way to much time down since I bought it. Ignition new as of last weekend so the long running problem of dieing on me running on down the road was taken care of and she has always started, 1st try. Well sounds like the starter clutch, this Ultima starter was installed in June 2008, wish I could say it had a shtload of starts on it but with Wi. winters and just finding the time, that is not the case. Starter shows up on Friday, will, fingers crossed, have it runnig Saturday.
Dude, I love my Ultima starter. They make good stuff. Honestly. I might even buy one of their 124" engines down the road for Bertha!

Please keep us posted as to your progress in this issue. There are a LOT of guys on this forum who are a LOT smarter than I am to help you.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 01:06 AM
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If I may chip in here, I am also having starter problems of late. I have a new battery, so that is perfect. But sometimes, not always, my starter just spins without engaging. After a few tries it would suddenly engage and start the bike without problem.

Are these the same symptoms you are having? From preceding posts my understanding is that if she spins the solenoid is OK. Should I be considering a new starter?

Cheers

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