new to evo need some serious advice
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That is a tough one to answer, why would a man like a blonde better than a brunette? When I was younger I rode metric bikes that were better than the Harleys in every way but never understood how Harley owners could be satisfied - now I am the guy that doesn't care about it not being the latest greatest product on the market. Yeah, the new Harley owner walking by our bike may just see a piece of junk, it does not matter to me, anymore than if he can understand why my wife and I are married 35 years.
I do dislike too much computer controlled stuff, I know it is better and I do not argue that point but to me it would be like having sex by sticking the erection through a hole in the wall, yeah, there may be something on the other side to get you off but it just can't give you the satisfaction of having your lover next to you where you can touch, caress and get things heated up the way you like it.
The newest Harleys are best made ever, but I don't want one, I like my 20 year old evo style Harley. Maybe some day I will change my mind, but I hope not because I enjoy this feeling I have now and hope I never end up thinking of it as just another motorcycle. I know guys that buy several bikes and never truly bond with any, they are always looking for something better, looking to find a feeling they can not find - I hope I never end up like that.
I do dislike too much computer controlled stuff, I know it is better and I do not argue that point but to me it would be like having sex by sticking the erection through a hole in the wall, yeah, there may be something on the other side to get you off but it just can't give you the satisfaction of having your lover next to you where you can touch, caress and get things heated up the way you like it.
The newest Harleys are best made ever, but I don't want one, I like my 20 year old evo style Harley. Maybe some day I will change my mind, but I hope not because I enjoy this feeling I have now and hope I never end up thinking of it as just another motorcycle. I know guys that buy several bikes and never truly bond with any, they are always looking for something better, looking to find a feeling they can not find - I hope I never end up like that.
Last edited by pajoe; Sep 24, 2010 at 06:22 PM.
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well first off to applogize to all the previous evo owners after my ride home today on my new 94 rk I am starting to already get the idea when I got in the garage after a really good and fair ride home 55 ok 65 ok 75 og 90 ok thats enough I began to (hear) the evo motor it does sound good i got the se air breather and a few jets a 44 a 45 and a 175 to start with I intend to put on the rush/jackpots I got for the ultra and run her like that for a while .I sure didnt mean to sound like I was downing the evo just unsure I guess.I want you all to know you have helped and I look forward to the new adventure.......
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From: Highspire Pa
mogood:
Jireh has about the best prices on aftermarket parts for your evo, Jireh is NOT a good place for accessories. They have engine parts printouts you can download:
http://www.ultimaproducts.com/enginereferenceguide.html
They have one of the poorest setups for inventory as the people taking the orders are not linked to the warehouse for accurate inventory. But if you have the time to wait you can save money .
http://www.jirehcycles.com/
I like Zanotti best for OEM parts:
http://www.zanottimotor.com/
on edit: as you guessed we don't spend a lot of time at the local dealers, but I was at one today to pick up some "Evo" oil filters, don't let them sell you twin cam oil filters for your evo as they sometimes cause evos to push oil out the breather.
Jireh has about the best prices on aftermarket parts for your evo, Jireh is NOT a good place for accessories. They have engine parts printouts you can download:
http://www.ultimaproducts.com/enginereferenceguide.html
They have one of the poorest setups for inventory as the people taking the orders are not linked to the warehouse for accurate inventory. But if you have the time to wait you can save money .
http://www.jirehcycles.com/
I like Zanotti best for OEM parts:
http://www.zanottimotor.com/
on edit: as you guessed we don't spend a lot of time at the local dealers, but I was at one today to pick up some "Evo" oil filters, don't let them sell you twin cam oil filters for your evo as they sometimes cause evos to push oil out the breather.
Last edited by pajoe; Sep 24, 2010 at 06:41 PM.
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well first off to applogize to all the previous evo owners after my ride home today on my new 94 rk I am starting to already get the idea when I got in the garage after a really good and fair ride home 55 ok 65 ok 75 og 90 ok thats enough I began to (hear) the evo motor it does sound good i got the se air breather and a few jets a 44 a 45 and a 175 to start with I intend to put on the rush/jackpots I got for the ultra and run her like that for a while .I sure didnt mean to sound like I was downing the evo just unsure I guess.I want you all to know you have helped and I look forward to the new adventure.......
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That is a tough one to answer, why would a man like a blonde better than a brunette? When I was younger I rode metric bikes that were better than the Harleys in every way but never understood how Harley owners could be satisfied - now I am the guy that doesn't care about it not being the latest greatest product on the market. Yeah, the new Harley owner walking by our bike may just see a piece of junk, it does not matter to me, anymore than if he can understand why my wife and I are married 35 years.
I do dislike too much computer controlled stuff, I know it is better and I do not argue that point but to me it would be like having sex by sticking the erection through a hole in the wall, yeah, there may be something on the other side to get you off but it just can't give you the satisfaction of having your lover next to you where you can touch, caress and get things heated up the way you like it.
The newest Harleys are best made ever, but I don't want one, I like my 20 year old evo style Harley. Maybe some day I will change my mind, but I hope not because I enjoy this feeling I have now and hope I never end up thinking of it as just another motorcycle. I know guys that buy several bikes and never truly bond with any, they are always looking for something better, looking to find a feeling they can not find - I hope I never end up like that.
I do dislike too much computer controlled stuff, I know it is better and I do not argue that point but to me it would be like having sex by sticking the erection through a hole in the wall, yeah, there may be something on the other side to get you off but it just can't give you the satisfaction of having your lover next to you where you can touch, caress and get things heated up the way you like it.
The newest Harleys are best made ever, but I don't want one, I like my 20 year old evo style Harley. Maybe some day I will change my mind, but I hope not because I enjoy this feeling I have now and hope I never end up thinking of it as just another motorcycle. I know guys that buy several bikes and never truly bond with any, they are always looking for something better, looking to find a feeling they can not find - I hope I never end up like that.
But good grief, Joe! I got all fired up just reading that post... erections and satisfaction and all!
You've obviously bonded with your bike as much as I've bonded with Bertha - with her simple CV carb, NO emissions crap, and her near total lack of electronics (except for all the stuff I've added, of course...)
Can't really envision that happening with a new twinkie... I mean, I would like a brand new bike, but not for $24,000 and then have to go to all the expense of customizing it like I've already done with Bertha. And even after I got done doing it, I still might not "bond" with it... cuz it wouldn't have the character of an older Evo! 
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The stock TC has a cam chain which will stretch out under the heavy load of performance cams and stiffer valve springs...You can replace the cam chain/cams with a gear drive but that is some precision parts replacement that requires attention to detail..
The TC is not as simple to build as an EVO!!! There are more moving parts in a TC powerplant when compared to the EVO.
The TC is not as simple to build as an EVO!!! There are more moving parts in a TC powerplant when compared to the EVO.
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They have their own character. TCs were developed to keep up with the ever stiffer regulations on noise and emissions, which the Evo could no longer meet. But it has affected the way the TCs ride. So an 80" Evo with a few minor mods, as ridemywg has pointed out, can match or better a TC. If you get the chance to ride one (assuming you haven't) give it a go!
The success of the Evo is also what under-pinned the enormous industry out there now producing after-market engines and tuning kits, so Evos also provide an excellent basis for a serious performance machine. At their respective peaks, TCs were made at around seven times as many as Evos, so buy now while stocks last!
The success of the Evo is also what under-pinned the enormous industry out there now producing after-market engines and tuning kits, so Evos also provide an excellent basis for a serious performance machine. At their respective peaks, TCs were made at around seven times as many as Evos, so buy now while stocks last!
If it were all just about the EPA, we wouldn't have all of the huge 140+ HP aftermarket Evo-style engines out there, because the EPA wouldn't let them put those engines on the market, would they?
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Actually, from what I've read, one of the primary motivators was that the Evo specs were totally open, as the MoCo NEEDED the aftermarket to make stuff to generate demand in the 80s when they really needed the help to survive. The twinkie was developed, and the specs kept closed, in the mid to late 90s to protect the MoCo's revenue stream, since they were making tons of money back then and there were long waiting lists for new Harleys. They wanted to shut OUT the aftermarket. That's why there are no aftermarket twinkie-style engines out there. Yet?
If it were all just about the EPA, we wouldn't have all of the huge 140+ HP aftermarket Evo-style engines out there, because the EPA wouldn't let them put those engines on the market, would they?
If it were all just about the EPA, we wouldn't have all of the huge 140+ HP aftermarket Evo-style engines out there, because the EPA wouldn't let them put those engines on the market, would they?
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For the oil filter, I personally use and recommend Genuine Toyota oil filters for a 22R motor, such as a 4 cylinder 1986 Toyota Truck. The specs are identical to a HD Evo filter (which some say doesn't exist anymore), they're black, a higher quality filter and cost <$5 at the Toyota dealer. I've even had some made in USA, wherever that is.
I bought my bike new. Dr.Linda's too, for that matter. They do everything we want of them. I have no need for a new one. While they're slightly more complicated than a Shovelhead (shudder), they are infinitely more reliable and the best bikes the MoCo ever made.
I bought my bike new. Dr.Linda's too, for that matter. They do everything we want of them. I have no need for a new one. While they're slightly more complicated than a Shovelhead (shudder), they are infinitely more reliable and the best bikes the MoCo ever made.