EVO All Evo Model Discussion

Talk about Torque!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 11, 2010 | 01:07 PM
  #11  
1997bagger's Avatar
1997bagger
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,077
Likes: 2,137
From: Ohio
Default

GR, I have the white sled geared down like you are speaking of and accelleration is fun, 55 mph is in the sweet spot and very very seldom do I need to drop to 4th. Big bike and I'm a donut eater mystifies alot of people on real world riding and accelleration capabilities, Will add a 6 speed this winter, 1 thru 5 will be the same and the .086 6th will work because running 75 mph starts to mess with my thought patterns and I slow down, the engine is built properly to handle long period rpm's but dropping some rpm's would give me some peace of mind.

I don't want to hijack this thread but over the weekend, I found out how the slightest baffle change and a retune can unleash an engine that is holding back. Gear change and a good running engine is fun if you have a little bit of hotrod in ya
 
Reply
Old Oct 11, 2010 | 02:20 PM
  #12  
grbrown's Avatar
grbrown
Thread Starter
|
Club Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 45,429
Likes: 2,897
From: Bedford UK
Cool

Originally Posted by 1997bagger
GR, I have the white sled geared down like you are speaking of and accelleration is fun, 55 mph is in the sweet spot and very very seldom do I need to drop to 4th. Big bike and I'm a donut eater mystifies alot of people on real world riding and accelleration capabilities, Will add a 6 speed this winter, 1 thru 5 will be the same and the .086 6th will work because running 75 mph starts to mess with my thought patterns and I slow down, the engine is built properly to handle long period rpm's but dropping some rpm's would give me some peace of mind.

I don't want to hijack this thread but over the weekend, I found out how the slightest baffle change and a retune can unleash an engine that is holding back. Gear change and a good running engine is fun if you have a little bit of hotrod in ya
The solution to your messed up thoughts is ear plugs! Try them if you haven't, they cost cents. They are the best tuning aid known to mankind. By reducing noise levels at speed they reduce tension and fatigue, so you can ride further faster - and have calm thoughts at the same time!
 
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2010 | 12:53 AM
  #13  
1997bagger's Avatar
1997bagger
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,077
Likes: 2,137
From: Ohio
Default

[QUOTE]
Originally Posted by grbrown
The solution to your messed up thoughts is ear plugs! Try them if you haven't, they cost cents. They are the best tuning aid known to mankind. By reducing noise levels at speed they reduce tension and fatigue, so you can ride further faster - and have calm thoughts at the same time! [/QUOTE
]

I can understand what your are preaching but as a 28 year mechanic, I see rotating mass and mechanical items moving faster and longer for a period of time than they are intended, ear plugs won't change a mechanical based mind, but will I change gearing no, just add one more gear for the highway speeds, best of both worlds.

The only thing I have found that helps make me calm and relaxed is cold beverages at a watering hole with good friends. I do need to use the ear plugs as the wind whistle messes with my hearing. I can't hear a word you guys are saying.
 
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2010 | 04:35 AM
  #14  
mdanehart's Avatar
mdanehart
Road Captain
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 632
Likes: 11
From: Wheeling, WV
Default

Do you have a part number and price on the sprocket and chain...time for some investigation..
 
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2010 | 05:09 AM
  #15  
grbrown's Avatar
grbrown
Thread Starter
|
Club Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 45,429
Likes: 2,897
From: Bedford UK
Default

Originally Posted by mdanehart
Do you have a part number and price on the sprocket and chain...time for some investigation..
It's an SE Primary Gear Kit, 40331-02. They seem to be available, having googled it, at around $160.
 
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2010 | 05:25 AM
  #16  
IronGear's Avatar
IronGear
Tourer
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 293
Likes: 7
Default

Originally Posted by 96roadking
Graham, are you talking about having changed a sprocket in your primary or a pulley on your final drive? on the subject of 6 speeds, isn't 6th gear essentially just an overdrive (1:1)? So that 1 through 5 ratios are the same as a normal 5 speed? Please correct my ignorance on this.
1:1 is not overdriven. Overdrive is less than1:1.
 
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2010 | 05:27 AM
  #17  
IronGear's Avatar
IronGear
Tourer
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 293
Likes: 7
Default

Originally Posted by grbrown
Harley tend to use an overdrive sixth of around 0.86:1.
HD dyna and softail 6 speeds are 1:1.
Are you saying touring are different?
 
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2010 | 05:30 AM
  #18  
IronGear's Avatar
IronGear
Tourer
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 293
Likes: 7
Default

If you want a higher top speed from your HD, LOWER the gearing.
It is way too tall stock to ever pull anywhere near redline.
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Southpaw Super Glide: A Left-Hand-Drive 1979 Harley FXE Built to Fit the Rider

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Oct 12, 2010 | 05:33 AM
  #19  
IronGear's Avatar
IronGear
Tourer
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 293
Likes: 7
Default

[quote=1997bagger;7400154]
]

I can understand what your are preaching but as a 28 year mechanic, I see rotating mass and mechanical items moving faster and longer for a period of time than they are intended, ear plugs won't change a mechanical based mind, but will I change gearing no, just add one more gear for the highway speeds, best of both worlds.

The only thing I have found that helps make me calm and relaxed is cold beverages at a watering hole with good friends. I do need to use the ear plugs as the wind whistle messes with my hearing. I can't hear a word you guys are saying.
Exactly what speed were they intended to turn at?
What if a rider goes faster than another? His engine is turning faster for longer.
Even with lowered gearing, they are not running too fast in top. Not even close. And my 30 years are on HD motorcycles.
 
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2010 | 08:04 AM
  #20  
grbrown's Avatar
grbrown
Thread Starter
|
Club Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 45,429
Likes: 2,897
From: Bedford UK
Red face

Originally Posted by IronGear
HD dyna and softail 6 speeds are 1:1.
Are you saying touring are different?
That's not my understanding! I believe they are all over-drive 6th. Baker are the only people I know of who make a direct drive 6-speed.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:06 PM.

story-0
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-4
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-5
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE
story-9
Southpaw Super Glide: A Left-Hand-Drive 1979 Harley FXE Built to Fit the Rider

Slideshow: Graeme Billington's left-hand-drive Shovelhead is as much about problem-solving as it is about classic Harley form.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2025-12-30 11:27:08


VIEW MORE