inner reassembly
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No help you say.
How unkind.
A few retractions regarding the bearing fitment there.
Please note. There is an early and a late spec for 5 sp main drive gear needle bearing installation.
The flat side does go to bearing, as opposed to the standard flat side out thinking.
So for HD 5 speeds, it is indeed round side out.
Perhaps the question actually was a little too tricky for some, after all.
How unkind.
A few retractions regarding the bearing fitment there.
Please note. There is an early and a late spec for 5 sp main drive gear needle bearing installation.
The flat side does go to bearing, as opposed to the standard flat side out thinking.
So for HD 5 speeds, it is indeed round side out.
Perhaps the question actually was a little too tricky for some, after all.
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From: South Carolina
No help you say.
How unkind.
A few retractions regarding the bearing fitment there.
Please note. There is an early and a late spec for 5 sp main drive gear needle bearing installation.
The flat side does go to bearing, as opposed to the standard flat side out thinking.
So for HD 5 speeds, it is indeed round side out.
Perhaps the question actually was a little too tricky for some, after all.
How unkind.
A few retractions regarding the bearing fitment there.
Please note. There is an early and a late spec for 5 sp main drive gear needle bearing installation.
The flat side does go to bearing, as opposed to the standard flat side out thinking.
So for HD 5 speeds, it is indeed round side out.
Perhaps the question actually was a little too tricky for some, after all.
It seems that you are quite impressed with your infinite knowledge.
Into the ignore list you go.
Last edited by Dan89FLSTC; Jan 28, 2011 at 04:58 PM.
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How could you be so wrong regarding the bearing?
HD 5 speeds have the round side out. If you install it the other way, the case is damaged.
Am I now to think you have been damaging cases?
Just measure the the installation tool for bearing depth if you are not sure.
Or look in the manual, it is all in there.
I have numerous manuals, all genuine. I really do not look in them much anymore, but there are still there if needed.
I am sure(or at least assume) that you are a good person, who wants to help others.
You are supposedly meant to be some experienced HD mech.
But you are wrong so often in your posts, it is absolutely frightening.
How could you not know any of this. Do you not own any books?
Have you never disassembled a 5 speed? Did you not notice the circlip on top gear?
I have.
Several hundred times.
Honestly, I am amazed.
You remark about a bearing being ok for service, in a bike you have never seen, is ludicrous. You have no idea, and I certainly do not either.
The bearing may well need urgent replacement for all we know.
Where would you get the idea you can tell people over the internet whether or not their trans bearings are still good to go?
Incredible.
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From: Bluffton, South Carolina
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Where would you get the idea you can tell people over the internet whether or not their trans bearings are still good to go?
Incredible.[/QUOTE]
Probably from the same place that you can say replace it without knowing it's bad.
Now let's check your math-- Several hundred times over the last twenty six years or so of the 5 speeds being around equals about 29 trannies a year!!! I am impressed oh mighty one!!! I guess that explains why you do not answer any questions, you only have time to troll. I think you are a library/google mechanic, and we are still waiting for you to tell all us uninformed lowly masses about yourself. There are people on here who had bikes that I worked on in the early 70's, can you say that????
Just because someone doesn't do something the way you do doesn't make it wrong!!
Where would you get the idea you can tell people over the internet whether or not their trans bearings are still good to go?
Incredible.[/QUOTE]
Probably from the same place that you can say replace it without knowing it's bad.
Now let's check your math-- Several hundred times over the last twenty six years or so of the 5 speeds being around equals about 29 trannies a year!!! I am impressed oh mighty one!!! I guess that explains why you do not answer any questions, you only have time to troll. I think you are a library/google mechanic, and we are still waiting for you to tell all us uninformed lowly masses about yourself. There are people on here who had bikes that I worked on in the early 70's, can you say that????
Just because someone doesn't do something the way you do doesn't make it wrong!!
Last edited by miacycles; Jan 28, 2011 at 06:34 PM.
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When I took the trap door bearing retaining clips out I took note that the flat side was against the bearing. When I took the 5th gear retaining clip out the thing was so stiff all I could do with my very large retaining clip pliers was hold it long enough to get a flat screw driver under the gap of the retaining ring and pry around the edge to get it out of the groove and of course it finally went flying so I have no idea if the flat side was against the bearing but I really doubt if it could ever come out on its own without a great deal of help. Can't comment on the inner primary retaining clips although I will inspect the clutch bearing retaing clip direction. So now I'm definately not certain which way is up.
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Now let's check your math-- Several hundred times over the last twenty six years or so of the 5 speeds being around equals about 29 trannies a year!!! I am impressed oh mighty one!!! I guess that explains why you do not answer any questions, you only have time to troll. I think you are a library/google mechanic, and we are still waiting for you to tell all us uninformed lowly masses about yourself. There are people on here who had bikes that I worked on in the early 70's, can you say that????
Just because someone doesn't do something the way you do doesn't make it wrong!![/quote]
Are you completely silly????
I certainly never said "replace it".
Show me where I said that.
That is your classic error.
You make a comment about a remark THAT WAS NEVER MADE!
I understand your embarrassment.
Do not make out it has anything to do with me.
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When I took the trap door bearing retaining clips out I took note that the flat side was against the bearing. When I took the 5th gear retaining clip out the thing was so stiff all I could do with my very large retaining clip pliers was hold it long enough to get a flat screw driver under the gap of the retaining ring and pry around the edge to get it out of the groove and of course it finally went flying so I have no idea if the flat side was against the bearing but I really doubt if it could ever come out on its own without a great deal of help. Can't comment on the inner primary retaining clips although I will inspect the clutch bearing retaing clip direction. So now I'm definately not certain which way is up.
I told you.
If you cannot tell from reading on this forum that I know exactly what i am on about, then there is no hope for you.
The others deny what i say, to cover their error, and lack of accurate knowledge.
You will easily see the marks where the circlip pliers were.
They will be on only one side.
Now let me ask you.
Do you honestly think I googled circlip plier marks?
Easy to see why so many want to do their own work. You would, for starters, have your needle bearings, and circlip, installed incorrectly.
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For the record, and no, I did not have to google this either, 26 x 29 = 754.
So much for the math check.
Several means more than 2, but not many.
I have over 30 years experience(that's many, not several), and that is real experience.
That's how I know things that you do not.
You are no match for me.
And that is ok. I am not having a contest.
I am just making sure the OP is getting good info.
And we all know he was not getting that from you.
You do not need to feel belittled.
You only look silly when you post the wrong info, and then argue when you are wrong.
So much for the math check.
Several means more than 2, but not many.
I have over 30 years experience(that's many, not several), and that is real experience.
That's how I know things that you do not.
You are no match for me.
And that is ok. I am not having a contest.
I am just making sure the OP is getting good info.
And we all know he was not getting that from you.
You do not need to feel belittled.
You only look silly when you post the wrong info, and then argue when you are wrong.
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From: Bluffton, South Carolina
For the record, and no, I did not have to google this either, 26 x 29 = 754.
So much for the math check.
Several means more than 2, but not many.
I have over 30 years experience(that's many, not several), and that is real experience.
That's how I know things that you do not.
You are no match for me.
And that is ok. I am not having a contest.
I am just making sure the OP is getting good info.
And we all know he was not getting that from you.
You do not need to feel belittled.
You only look silly when you post the wrong info, and then argue when you are wrong.
So much for the math check.
Several means more than 2, but not many.
I have over 30 years experience(that's many, not several), and that is real experience.
That's how I know things that you do not.
You are no match for me.
And that is ok. I am not having a contest.
I am just making sure the OP is getting good info.
And we all know he was not getting that from you.
You do not need to feel belittled.
You only look silly when you post the wrong info, and then argue when you are wrong.
As for the math, I rounded up it is allowed in math. If you did a hundred you should have said a hundred, if you did more you should have said "hundreds". Several comes from the root word seven, you do know what that means?? In the future I will be doing as many of the others and just ignore your self indulging ramblings.
Last edited by miacycles; Jan 29, 2011 at 05:37 AM.
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You know you should really see someone about your inferiority complex. It is manifesting itself in an unhealthy way!!
As for the math, I rounded up it is allowed in math. If you did a hundred you should have said a hundred, if you did more you should have said "hundreds". Several comes from the root word seven, you do know what that means?? In the future I will be doing as many of the others and just ignore your self indulging ramblings.
As for the math, I rounded up it is allowed in math. If you did a hundred you should have said a hundred, if you did more you should have said "hundreds". Several comes from the root word seven, you do know what that means?? In the future I will be doing as many of the others and just ignore your self indulging ramblings.
That tells me who has the inferiority complex.
I am good, thanks, and will remain on the issue. I feel no need to attack you.
For the record...... from wiki..
"Several, means more than 2 or 3. It is also usually a number less than 20.
The word 'several' has its origins in the Greek word Sevallius, meaning small gathering. 'Sevallius Sema' was the meeting place of the Gods on land. 'Sevallius' meaning gathering, 'Sema' meaning Gods.
NOTE - Several does not mean seven specifically."
So there you go.
I only looked that up after your ridiculous claim, which I knew to be wrong.
I know how you can save face.
Say something rude about someone else, but whatever you do, do not address the actual issue.