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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 10:04 AM
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The ‘new’ fender is fully installed and rear wheel back where I hope it will find a happy home! Bearing in mind the fender only fits where it touches I have mounted it at the following points, all of which I have had to drill into it:
  • top of each shock, as with the original fender,
  • central bolt holding the grabrail on the luggage platform, using a bolt from underneath,
  • rear upper support bracket, using a through bolt from inside the fender.
I left out the spacers either side the fender at the shock mounts and pulled the fender wider. I used the upper support bracket to install through bolts and pulled the fender out there as well, so it touches the brackets. I used the grabrail bolt primarily to support the fender while I worked out what else to do! You can see domed nuts on the three added mounting bolts.

I have also used button-head screws inside the fender at the four side mounting points, to minimise obstruction to the tyre and can just get the tip of my little finger between head and tyre, with the suspension jacked up to max compression. Hopefully that is enough!

Drilling the new holes has been a bit hit and miss, requiring some fine tuning, to get them to line up. Hardly very scientific, but that is what prototyping is all about! All I need to finish off is a handful of blanking grommets, to fill the ‘spare’ holes.

You can see that the later fender doesn't look any different to the stock one at the rear, however it doesn't reach the cross-member, where the stock fender is bolted in, or support the front of the grabrail. I have yet to solve that!
 
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 06:14 AM
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I've managed to sort out the grabrail mounting, plus a mudflap at the front of the fender, so I can now strip, clean and loctite everything back in place, ready for operational use!

Photos show close-ups of:
  • the rear fitting, where I have drilled through, used a screw from inside the fender and a domed nut, to pull the fender out a little,
  • where I have left out a spacer between fender and frame at the shock mounting and pulled the fender out,
  • close encounter between tyre and lower rear chrome!
In all cases I have finger tip clearances, which will hopefully be enough!
 
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 09:53 PM
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Nice work GR!
 
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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Browsing the Avon tyres website I see that some bright spark has set a two-way record of 229mph on a pair of Storm tyres, similar to my new wide rear. So the Glide should be fine on those German autobahns! That's reassuring.....
 
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 08:48 AM
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Exclamation Warning for Deuce rear wheel users!

I've just made an interesting discovery. Searching through some papers I uncovered by chance the installation sheet that came with my rear floating rotor, which you can see in the middle photo of #31 above. It has a pretty pattern of holes in it, which serve no useful purpose, especially as it is out of sight behind the right saddlebag.

However those holes have a sinister side to them and there are two dreaded 'Warning' notices, relating to Deuce rear wheels! It seems water can get through those holes and into the hollow casting that is the wheel, which is not a good idea, when those very same saddlebags probably guarantee a thorough drenching in the rain.

Fortunately there is a 'rotor hub plate kit' #43837-00 for closing off the holes. I've just ordered one and will post pics when it arrives. And I was ready to finally loctite and torque into place everything back there! For future reference, use a 'Classic' rotor, which has no holes in the centre, except the five fixing holes.
 

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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 08:32 PM
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I hope all those holes at least make it lighter. I had mine off yesterday and man that cast rotor is a heavy sucker.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2012 | 04:43 AM
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Tom, you are quite right, but when swapping swingarm and wheels to the later round spoke wheel, it is almost identical in weight, with tyre, pulley and rotor, to the original stock set-up. This Deuce wheel is a lot heavier!
 
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Old Jul 30, 2012 | 07:08 AM
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Don't get too excited, but here it is! This is the grandly named 'hub plate - wheel, FXSTD' part # 43837-00. It is actually a piece of shim, about .010 thick and 5" diameter, otherwise as you see it. The packaging probably weighed much more! So I can at last finish off my wheel installation and torque everything up.

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I should add that in fact one of these shims is required each side of the hub, when using anything other than a Deuce pulley and brake rotor. The pulley has an integral seal and the stock rotor covers those holes in the hub.
 
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Originally Posted by grbrown
So I can at last finish off my wheel installation and torque everything up.
I wait with baited breath. Seriously, I'm looking forward to the outcome of the whole thing.
 
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Brief update. I just discovered a nearby bike paint shop I didn't know was there and having got my various modified parts sorted out (later saddlebags, 6 gallon tank, 'new' front and rear fenders) I am prepping everything for new paint. Rather earlier than planned, but an opportunity worth diverting effort to get done.
 
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