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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 01:02 PM
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Hi guys, not sure if its just me picking on a new sound to centre out or what but when I hit the throttle on the lower gears where most of the torque is I'm hearing like an aluminum can with ball bearings rattling around and it only accurs at the point where i should be changing gears. I'm not hearing it in the 4th and 5th gear but more 1, 2and 3rd gear. I have my Ultima ignition set to green lite just going off and crank timing mark set at centre of hole TDC front. Does this sound like the normal rocker noise or is it more like pinging?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 04:10 PM
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Rocker noise is always there, it doesn't come and go with the revs... yours sounds (not that I can hear it) like "pinging", easy test is to retard the ign timing by 5 degrees and see if it goes away.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 04:17 PM
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Rocker noise is always there, it doesn't come and go with the revs... yours sounds (not that I can hear it) like "pinging", easy test is to retard the ign timing by 5 degrees and see if it goes away.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 05:37 PM
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The classic description of detonation is: "It sounds like someone shaking a coffee can with marbles in it." We use the term pinging a lot here, including me. I think as a group, we are implying a milder form of what has always been called detonation in the past. I say that because if you search the old threads, pinging is associated with advanced timing, hot days, heavy loads, bad gas, etc.. What is really important is that pinging,
i.e. detonation is deadly to engines. It has to be adopted, and stopped quickly. Sometimes it is as easy as adding a gas additive, our perhaps more involved, like pulling out an ignition module, but it has to be fixed. Good luck.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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I think before turning the back plate Ill try a different curve, just a matter of playing with the dip switches.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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You are probaly on the first setting with the Ultima, take it to the third setting and run it again in the hot weather, should be ok.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 07:36 AM
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I beleive I am on the first setting, will change up today after work.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 10:15 AM
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Try to get your gas at a station that has a seperate hose for each grade. If you don't the first gallon plus will be whatever was pumped last, which is usually regular. Also weve been telling our customers to think about adding either Star tron, or the new stuff from sta-bil that helps prevent the negative effects of the ethanol. Hope this helps.
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 11:19 AM
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John I don't think we get the ethonal treatment here in Ontario Canada yet.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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Then you won't need to use the ethanol treatment. But the three hoses is still pertinent.
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