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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 04:22 PM
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Is it true that you have to let an evo engine warm up quite a bit so it will not seep oil out of the base gaskets or is this just a myth?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 04:30 PM
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Concensus seems to be to let it warm at high idle until the rockers start getting warm to the touch. And no, it's not a myth, it allows the cylinders to expand and create a good seal. Others will have there own little ritual, but the above seems pretty popular. Thats how I do it, anyway
 
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 04:33 PM
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+1 on letting the engine idle to the rear rocker is warm, doesn't take long, about the time to put on jacket gloves and helmet and open my gate ....

Thrashing a cold engine of any type is not good.
 

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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 04:33 PM
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I would say its a myth....the original paper gaskets will leak eventually as they go hard and crumble...the James or Cometic gaskets shouldn't ever leak.

To say that the motor needs to be warm for the gaskets to seal does not take into account that if it was all loose when cold then the head gaskets would be blowing on start up.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 04:34 PM
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I start my bike and let it fast idle while putting on my helmet etc., then I ease out of the driveway and take it easy for a few miles. Believe this is sufficient.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 04:46 PM
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I start and go slow for a bit. I don't know why going down the road at 1500 rpms would be any different than sitting in the driveway at 1500 rpm.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Spanners39
I would say its a myth....the original paper gaskets will leak eventually as they go hard and crumble...the James or Cometic gaskets shouldn't ever leak.

To say that the motor needs to be warm for the gaskets to seal does not take into account that if it was all loose when cold then the head gaskets would be blowing on start up.
Not saying tolerances would be loose to the point of leaking, but I certainly would think things are "tighter" once they warm a little. And the motor is not being subjected to the same stresses sitting at idle as it would throttling down the road. Dunno, bit like Kees said, I don't think it's a good idea running any motor down the road cold. JMO
 
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 05:04 PM
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Well, I guess running cold could kill my Harley before I die , but I doubt it. If it does, I'll fix it or sell it to one of you guys.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 05:04 PM
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My thought on the subject is, when the motor is cold all the parts contract slightly. When the motor is warming up, the parts expand or "grow" at different rates due to the thickness and type of metal used. When a motor is warming up, parts start to expand so when the motor is totally warmed up, all the parts and gaskets have expanded as much as they can and leaks are sealed. If you get in a habit of starting the bike ,taking off without any warm up, certain parts will expand faster then others and gaskets will tend to rip and therefore leaks begin. Valve covers are a classic leak point on Evos.,,
 
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 05:04 PM
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No better way to create heat than to drive it down the road.. However, with that being said, aluminum engines have a tendency to change quite a bit when heat cycled. While the head bolts were almost certainly installed and torqued cold, the expansion and contraction of the engine from stone cold to normal operating temp, would cause substantial growth.. From memory, I seem to recall hearing +.010".. I always warm before riding off, if I must just hop on and go, I'm easy on it till it gets hot.. More heat, more clamping force on the gaskets, good enough for me... By the way, my James gaskets are leaking, only cold, on my Dyna since about 5k...
 
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