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Old Sep 18, 2024 | 06:16 AM
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Default EVO Bagger Performance… what a joke

I resisted the whole gezzerglyde thing my entire life. Now to make the wife happy I’ve added my Road King. This particular forum seems predominantly infatuated with baggers and Bagger performance. It’s been an influence on my thinking.

I innocently have sat on the sidelines, listening to all the different threads and all the guys talking about making big numbers and all this flashy talk about baggers and performance. The small measure of humility that I have made me think I must not know what I’m doing and you must be able to make a lot of power out of baggers. So now I’ve built a 113 and I’ve installed it in my road king. Only to find out there is extremely limited performance true dual exhaust system in existence.

With all the bagger performance talk I assumed the industry had lots of solutions…

My guess is 120hp / 120 torque. Way too much for a 1 3/4 inch pipe that’s longer than 36 inches.

Bassani, Reinhardt and V&H all made at one time or another true step tuned exhaust pipes.

Anyone know if any of their proprietary 2 inch inlet muffler/tail pipes had removable baffles?
Anyone have a used chrome set in good condition?

Anyone have advice for exhaust for a motor this size in a Road King? (98 flhrci)
 

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I'd call the dude on youtube at Tatro Machine in CA.
Stuff is still available, but a lot a times you gotta actually call folks.
Drag specialty and Eastern Performance have stuff that will fit but I don't know the diameter's on it or if stepped stuff is still available new... you could call them, but you may not need what you think...
Dude at Tatro has already been through it and will know what you need and who knows he might have something trick used in stock. san diego, ca 6192330484
 
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Thanks. I did find a used set of Reinhardt step tuned pipes in good condition. I’m not running mufflers so I took 2.25” pipes and cut the 1 3/4 bells off, cut slots and bought 2.25 muffler clamps. At the end I bought 2.25” tips and will run the large TTI’s and see what that does. If I decide I need baffles I have some 8” long baffles made for 2.25 pipes I can insert.
 
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I'd look at RB Racing
 
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I'd look at RB Racing
Really bad experience with them… want NOTHING to do with them or Thunderheader NO 2 INTO 1…. Ever.
 
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super trapp super meg with work real well,,,,,also call the fols at D&D and see if their early twin cam fat cat pipe will work for you.
those are gonna be your best bet without a lot of legwork.
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super trapp super meg with work real well,,,,,also call the fols at D&D and see if their early twin cam fat cat pipe will work for you.
those are gonna be your best bet without a lot of legwork.
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Thanks. I found a true dual step tuned set of Rinehart pipes. So 1 3/4 to 1 7/8 to 2 inch to 2.25 inch straight out with TTI’s, no baffle or mufflers. Should make great power!
 
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i disagree, i dont think you'll be happy with the power when its done,,,gonna sound great, but i bet it leaves stuff on the table. This is based on my own dyno tuning and engine building experience. the onky way to tell for sure is to run it, so good luck.
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Originally Posted by marcodarq
i disagree, i dont think you'll be happy with the power when its done,,,gonna sound great, but i bet it leaves stuff on the table. This is based on my own dyno tuning and engine building experience. the onky way to tell for sure is to run it, so good luck.
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I know many like 2 into 1. These one size fits all solutions don’t allow you to tune your exhaust. The length and diameter should match the valve timing, velocity and gearing for best results. 2:1 didn’t work for me. Fool me once kinda thing… I tried it twice. I waisted half of two seasons and over $2,400 I didn’t have with the blunder header and that stupid RB or RC.. not to mention waiting on their crap to be delivered. If you want to lose 3 tenths of a second, sound like a rototiller, and look like a metric rice burner.. by all means go that rout. No thanks. I hate 2 into 1 with the burning heat of thousand suns. They sure make it easy on the dyno operator to make fast numbers that look better. And after that beautiful AFR is done I can take it to the track and see how much slower it is…

Big motors need to breath. Drag pipes get a bad rep because morons buy some 20” long pieces of crap and bolt them onto a 80” anemic 8.5:1 motor and some bolt in low risk low reward cam and then they likely stick some swooped intake or breather on it… then they say “Yep, drag pipes suck, they didn’t work”. Drag pipes work really well when you tune them to your motor and goals. Reversion needs to be addressed with lollipops or even better… step tuned pipes.

This one is just a two up, daily Bagger and I still would never go to a 2:1 personally. I’ll tune these pipes we’ll enough and am very very confident after spending money and time with several dyno tuners that at most I’ll leave 2 possibly 3 ponies in school zone rpm levels and gain 3-5 in my average from 3k to 6K.
 
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