EFI dyno tune numbers
Cruiser
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From: Hartland, Wisconsin
RE: EFI dyno tune numbers
Not to jump on someones post.
I have a question for Doc. I have a new Ultrawith duals,pipes,SERT and Stage 1 A/C. Do I do a dynotune now with less than 10 miles on it or do I wait until some magic mileage before a Dynotune.
Thank you!
Again, sorry for the post jumping..
I have a question for Doc. I have a new Ultrawith duals,pipes,SERT and Stage 1 A/C. Do I do a dynotune now with less than 10 miles on it or do I wait until some magic mileage before a Dynotune.
Thank you!
Again, sorry for the post jumping..
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From: Florida
RE: EFI dyno tune numbers
I'd put on 75~100 miles and get a partial tune, ie have the tuner do 0%, 2%, 5%, 7%, 10%, 15%, and 20% throttle postion. You really shouldn't be going over the 20~30% TP during the break in of the lower end bearings any way. When you get 500 miles on the build get the rest of the map done. This suggestion would be the ultimate solution but getting it done like that might be inconvient and spendy. The bottom line is this, it will take 75~100 miles to seat your rings...if you went much further than that with the incorrect AFR you could do some damage to your engine. I would suggest to break the bike in as it is stock then do the upgrades but most dealers want to do the upgrade before you get delivery of it for warranty purposes.
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RE: EFI dyno tune numbers
ORIGINAL: joe98
Could you please tell us what year and model bike ? I had some trouble open the adobe reader on my p.c., also what were your final hp and torque numbers.
Thanks....
Could you please tell us what year and model bike ? I had some trouble open the adobe reader on my p.c., also what were your final hp and torque numbers.
Thanks....
Conditions: Temp 58.32 °F, Barometer 28.78 (a little lower than standard 29.92), Humidity 33%
About the bike : Powertrain is completely stock with the exception of V&H Exhaust and Screamin' Eagle Air Cleaner (Still drawing warm air from behind the stock air cleaner cover for the moment). Wheels are smooth rim wire laced. They have a bit less rotating mass than the standard machined not sure if that has much of an effect on the numbers.
When I took the bike in they asked if I wanted more power or economy and I told them that power was a secondary bonus. My main goal was to improve the sound with the V&H pipes without causing any engine damage. They said that they could safely get some more performance out of it so I said that would be fine but not to push it too much.
As for other runs, this is the only print out that I have. Not sure how many pulls they did or what all they were looking at.
Road Warrior
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RE: EFI dyno tune numbers
That looks like "A TYPICALHD DEALER" afr line. from the little exp i have with dealing with dealers and sert tuners they can never and i repeat never fully tune a bike in 12 pulls. hell you cantevenbust a nut with your handson in 12 pulls. at least i cant.
Hey DOC maybe the dealer knows something you dont....hahhahah
Hey DOC maybe the dealer knows something you dont....hahhahah
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From: Northeast Ohio
RE: EFI dyno tune numbers
I know SERT is a real valuable tool in the right hands, butfinding a reliable tuneris why I run the DTT. If I had a dyno in my garage, you can bet that SERT is what I would be using. I don't mind fussing withthe DTTand especially in the "cruise" range I will get it to where I can get great mileage and still get the performance too. 60 - 100 pulls is way beyond what 99% of tuners will do.
Once I had my last build dialed in with the DTT, I did throw the bike on the dyno and made a couple of pulls for peak power, just to see where it was at, and it far exceeded my expectations, and still turned in 42-43mpg consistenly on the highway and not a whole lot less than that around town.
Bottom line is that it is the person turning the dials that makes all the difference! If I did ever go to a SERT, I can say a trip to Florida would be in my future!
Once I had my last build dialed in with the DTT, I did throw the bike on the dyno and made a couple of pulls for peak power, just to see where it was at, and it far exceeded my expectations, and still turned in 42-43mpg consistenly on the highway and not a whole lot less than that around town.
Bottom line is that it is the person turning the dials that makes all the difference! If I did ever go to a SERT, I can say a trip to Florida would be in my future!
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Cruiser
Joined: Mar 2008
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From: Hartland, Wisconsin
RE: EFI dyno tune numbers
The dealer installed all parts.
My concern is the dealer installed canned map.
Is there a canned map for my mods?
Will the canned map be sufficent until I can afford a dyno tune?
Is there a chance of engine damage with a canned map?
I am so confused, I thought I was doing the right things for my new bike to run better. I spent $$$$$ on my bike and don't want to damage it. You talk about 4-6 hours to properly tune a bike. What is an estimated cost for a tune?
Thanks!
P.S My wife is gonna kill me!!! lol
My concern is the dealer installed canned map.
Is there a canned map for my mods?
Will the canned map be sufficent until I can afford a dyno tune?
Is there a chance of engine damage with a canned map?
I am so confused, I thought I was doing the right things for my new bike to run better. I spent $$$$$ on my bike and don't want to damage it. You talk about 4-6 hours to properly tune a bike. What is an estimated cost for a tune?
Thanks!
P.S My wife is gonna kill me!!! lol