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Road Warrior
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RE: Is it OK to...
ORIGINAL: taurusjim
no...a whole bottle don't be riduclous. it doesn't need it at all.
no...a whole bottle don't be riduclous. it doesn't need it at all.
If it doesn't need it at all, how do you keep the fuel injectors clean then? Thanks for your kind response.
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I think he means that a whole bottle is made to treat a full tank of gas in a car, say at least 15 gallons or more. Using a whole bottle in your approximately 5 gallon Harley tank could cause engine to run too hot or who knows what.
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ORIGINAL: QT Hush
Dude, I wasn't being ridiculous, just asking a legitimate question.
If it doesn't need it at all, how do you keep the fuel injectors clean then? Thanks for your kind response.
ORIGINAL: taurusjim
no...a whole bottle don't be riduclous. it doesn't need it at all.
no...a whole bottle don't be riduclous. it doesn't need it at all.
If it doesn't need it at all, how do you keep the fuel injectors clean then? Thanks for your kind response.
I don't have an answer for you on this. We have a tech rep (springer_) or Shovelhead Bob who is a certified Harley Tech here on the forum that you could pm if you like. I don't know how Harley's motors are set up for this type of additive.
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Fuel Injector Cleaner is SNAKE OIL......
A fuel injector is an enclosed funnel with a conical shaped plunger... this injector cleaner is designed to break loose the particles of dirt and gunk in the tank and lines, sent it "Down-stream"... Problem is that you have to get it small enough to breakdown and fit through this EXTRA TINY TAPERED orifice, and dump it into the combustion chamber.... Not too smart...
The only true way to clean injectors is to dis-assemble them, clean and lap them (Diesel motors), or to use a sonic pressure back-flush to push the contamination up and out of the injectors (High-performance motors).
If you are buying quality fuel (BP, Amoco in our area is the best quality), and you are not putting all of these aditives on top of what the EPA is forcing the petroleum co.'s to throw in, you will be okay... That fuel additive stuff, like octane booster, injector cleaner, and whatever else is just hype...
Another thing to remember, with the current price of gas, how many people are REALLY buying Premium... Makes you wonder how long that fuel has been in storage, whether it was in the above ground tanks, or at your station....
A fuel injector is an enclosed funnel with a conical shaped plunger... this injector cleaner is designed to break loose the particles of dirt and gunk in the tank and lines, sent it "Down-stream"... Problem is that you have to get it small enough to breakdown and fit through this EXTRA TINY TAPERED orifice, and dump it into the combustion chamber.... Not too smart...
The only true way to clean injectors is to dis-assemble them, clean and lap them (Diesel motors), or to use a sonic pressure back-flush to push the contamination up and out of the injectors (High-performance motors).
If you are buying quality fuel (BP, Amoco in our area is the best quality), and you are not putting all of these aditives on top of what the EPA is forcing the petroleum co.'s to throw in, you will be okay... That fuel additive stuff, like octane booster, injector cleaner, and whatever else is just hype...
Another thing to remember, with the current price of gas, how many people are REALLY buying Premium... Makes you wonder how long that fuel has been in storage, whether it was in the above ground tanks, or at your station....
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RE: Is it OK to...
ORIGINAL: Shovelhead Bob
Fuel Injector Cleaner is SNAKE OIL......
A fuel injector is an enclosed funnel with a conical shaped plunger... this injector cleaner is designed to break loose the particles of dirt and gunk in the tank and lines, sent it "Down-stream"... Problem is that you have to get it small enough to breakdown and fit through this EXTRA TINY TAPERED orifice, and dump it into the combustion chamber.... Not too smart...
The only true way to clean injectors is to dis-assemble them, clean and lap them (Diesel motors), or to use a sonic pressure back-flush to push the contamination up and out of the injectors (High-performance motors).
If you are buying quality fuel (BP, Amoco in our area is the best quality), and you are not putting all of these aditives on top of what the EPA is forcing the petroleum co.'s to throw in, you will be okay... That fuel additive stuff, like octane booster, injector cleaner, and whatever else is just hype...
Another thing to remember, with the current price of gas, how many people are REALLY buying Premium... Makes you wonder how long that fuel has been in storage, whether it was in the above ground tanks, or at your station....
Fuel Injector Cleaner is SNAKE OIL......
A fuel injector is an enclosed funnel with a conical shaped plunger... this injector cleaner is designed to break loose the particles of dirt and gunk in the tank and lines, sent it "Down-stream"... Problem is that you have to get it small enough to breakdown and fit through this EXTRA TINY TAPERED orifice, and dump it into the combustion chamber.... Not too smart...
The only true way to clean injectors is to dis-assemble them, clean and lap them (Diesel motors), or to use a sonic pressure back-flush to push the contamination up and out of the injectors (High-performance motors).
If you are buying quality fuel (BP, Amoco in our area is the best quality), and you are not putting all of these aditives on top of what the EPA is forcing the petroleum co.'s to throw in, you will be okay... That fuel additive stuff, like octane booster, injector cleaner, and whatever else is just hype...
Another thing to remember, with the current price of gas, how many people are REALLY buying Premium... Makes you wonder how long that fuel has been in storage, whether it was in the above ground tanks, or at your station....
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RE: Is it OK to...
Hey S.B.,
Question: Wouldn't the filter ( I am a bit naive here as I don't pick up my ride for another 2 weeks so I'm only assuming there is a filter) between the tank and injectors stop the loose crud in the tank from getting to them? Also, if you used the injector cleaner regularly and with the corrected quantity, there shouldn't be build up in the tank. Instead, the cleaner would help to remove carbon or sludge that would accumulate on the nozzle cone and orifices. Also, I understand that these cleaners "help" reduce carbon buildup on the tops of pistons.
A concern I might have would be what the cleaner might do to various seals or hoses, especially if not corrected for volume.
Just trying to play Devils Advocate.
Barry
Question: Wouldn't the filter ( I am a bit naive here as I don't pick up my ride for another 2 weeks so I'm only assuming there is a filter) between the tank and injectors stop the loose crud in the tank from getting to them? Also, if you used the injector cleaner regularly and with the corrected quantity, there shouldn't be build up in the tank. Instead, the cleaner would help to remove carbon or sludge that would accumulate on the nozzle cone and orifices. Also, I understand that these cleaners "help" reduce carbon buildup on the tops of pistons.
A concern I might have would be what the cleaner might do to various seals or hoses, especially if not corrected for volume.
Just trying to play Devils Advocate.
Barry