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Old Dec 19, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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I bought some bored out cylinders on Ebay that were supposed to be 3.875", then the guy told me that they were +.010 over. I told him ok because I hadnt bought my pistons yet. I measured the cylinders last night and they are measuring out 3.883" and 3.881". What is the acceptable amount allowed? I am afraid that these wont work. If not it would still be cheaper to by pistons and send them with my cyls to be bored and sell the ones I got on ebay. I could also send them out and make it a 98". I used some digital calipers I borrowed from work, what would be a better way to measure these? Thanks.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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i would have a shop spec them out for sure, before you buy any pistons.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Night Hog
I bought some bored out cylinders on Ebay that were supposed to be 3.875", then the guy told me that they were +.010 over. I told him ok because I hadnt bought my pistons yet. I measured the cylinders last night and they are measuring out 3.883" and 3.881". What is the acceptable amount allowed? I am afraid that these wont work. If not it would still be cheaper to by pistons and send them with my cyls to be bored and sell the ones I got on ebay. I could also send them out and make it a 98". I used some digital calipers I borrowed from work, what would be a better way to measure these? Thanks.
Meausring pistons is not something one can do accurately with dial calipers. The cylinders have to be measured at an X and Y axis and a 45* axis between X and Y; eight points at the top, mid and bottom of the piston travel. Meaurements are done with a dial bore guage and the cylinders in torque plates; checking for roundness and taper.

In your situation, if you want to run forged pistons, you could buy a set of JE pistons and have a "qualified" machinist hone the cylinders to fit those pistons. I happen to prefer cast pistons but I don't think anyone makes cast pistons for a 3.932" (98" bore). Or, you could have the machinist verify the bore and buy a set of SE flat top pistons, .020" over size and have the cylinders honed to fit.

Just a tip for future reference, it's not real smart to buy a set of cylinders before buying pistons, particularly off Ebay. Good luck.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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You can send them to Hillside or Hyperformace and they can bore them and fit with 3.932 pistons and that will make you a 98. .... of course you could have done this with the cylinders you have on the bike already... bore to a 95 or a 98 piston. Cylinders are cheap. Hope you didn't pay too much.
 

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Old Dec 19, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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I agree 100%, but for 100 bucks, it was worth a chance. I did my research 1st and found that this company was very reputable and has done a few magazine articles and alot of people here have used them. $133 with shipping.
 
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Originally Posted by Night Hog
I bought some bored out cylinders on Ebay that were supposed to be 3.875", then the guy told me that they were +.010 over. I told him ok because I hadnt bought my pistons yet. I measured the cylinders last night and they are measuring out 3.883" and 3.881". What is the acceptable amount allowed? I am afraid that these wont work. If not it would still be cheaper to by pistons and send them with my cyls to be bored and sell the ones I got on ebay. I could also send them out and make it a 98". I used some digital calipers I borrowed from work, what would be a better way to measure these? Thanks.

Micrometers are needed, as well as a dial bore guage, to set them up correctly.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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All, my Diamond cut 103 CI juggs with installed 10:5:1 CP pistons are still up for grabs. Someone needs a good Christmas present.

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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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Not only do you need inside micrometers to measure cylinder bore. HD jugs have to be in torque plates and torgued to spec before you will get a correct measurement. At least that is true fore EVO and TC jugs. Some places like nrhsp will fit pistons to your cylinders if you need help.

http://www.nrhsperformance.com/tech_squish.shtml
 
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Originally Posted by BlackFatBob64
Not only do you need inside micrometers to measure cylinder bore. HD jugs have to be in torque plates and torgued to spec before you will get a correct measurement.
See #3; not just HD jugs.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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I bought a set of 88" jugs off e-bay that had 1k miles on them for $ 65. and Scott just turned them into 98"
 
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