Help with tuner selection
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Help with tuner selection
I've posted on the Softail forum about this topic and was directed here. I have a 2012 Heritage and I added a Stage 1 a/c and slip-ons. The dealer did the Stage 1 flash. I am getting decel popping and I am concerned that the bike is running too lean. I'm not planning any major engine upgrades, but depending on the cost of the tuner or if a dyno is recommended, I may replace my slip-ons with a full exhaust system, such as V&H Big Shots Staggered.
I have heard different opinions from different local dealers and an independent: do the SE Pro tuner without a dyno run; do the SE Pro tuner with the dyno; don't do anything and don't worry about it. What do you guys suggest? I am not opposed to a pre-mapped after-market tuner, but I keep hearing horror stories from the dealers. I likely won't do the install myself unless it's really a no-brainer.
I am happy with the bike's performance . . . but who wouldn't like a low- to mid-range torque boost, too?
Thanks in advance.
I have heard different opinions from different local dealers and an independent: do the SE Pro tuner without a dyno run; do the SE Pro tuner with the dyno; don't do anything and don't worry about it. What do you guys suggest? I am not opposed to a pre-mapped after-market tuner, but I keep hearing horror stories from the dealers. I likely won't do the install myself unless it's really a no-brainer.
I am happy with the bike's performance . . . but who wouldn't like a low- to mid-range torque boost, too?
Thanks in advance.
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Many have added xieds to add a little more fuel in closed loop and are happy. If your not planning on any more mods and have all ready laid out the cash for a download, this is probably your cheapest option. You're still running a fairly lean 14.7/1 afr, if I'm not mistaken, so a little more fuel should help you out. Of coarse you could spend much more $ on a real tuner and get a better tune and get a little more power out of it but it may not be needed in your situation. Do some research and read what the other members will have to say. Then go with what you feel is best for your sled and budget. You can go to nightriders website to find out more about the xied's. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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MikeZ; I'm extremely pleased with Dobeck Performance tuners. I run the TFI on my 09 FLHX, but they have two newer products available on the marked (GEN3 & GEN4). Also, if you qualify, they have great discounds for military, public service & forum members. Might want to take a look: www.dobeckperformance.com
If you are happy with the power save your money. The a/f ratio is the EPA mandated 14.7-1 so honestly if the heat from the motor isn't bothering you I wouldn't worry about it. Now if you are planning cams or a big bore kit then buy a tuner,dyno jet or tts are your best bet.
The decel pop could be a loose headpipe. Check that out before buying anything. And any enrichment module is going to cost you fuel economy. If your happy don't change anything.
The decel pop could be a loose headpipe. Check that out before buying anything. And any enrichment module is going to cost you fuel economy. If your happy don't change anything.
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X-IED-10 on my 2011 RGU made a big improvement, fuel consumption was not affected..
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The decel pop is because you are running too lean. The dealer download will not help that since they have to make sure the bike runs to EPA specs. Of course the dealer is telling bad stories about tuners since they want to sell you what they have.
You need to add fuel to certain rpm ranges and the XEIDs or FuelPak may do the trick but they are not real tuners. I can say this because I tried both.
Finally went with the ThunderMax and gained a whole lot of low end power. It's not exactly a nobrainer to install, but if I could do it it couldn't be that bad. My point is not to get a ThunderMax but something that will let you adjust the critical areas.
I hear good things about the Dobeck and the PCIII and they are not as involved to install.
You need to add fuel to certain rpm ranges and the XEIDs or FuelPak may do the trick but they are not real tuners. I can say this because I tried both.
Finally went with the ThunderMax and gained a whole lot of low end power. It's not exactly a nobrainer to install, but if I could do it it couldn't be that bad. My point is not to get a ThunderMax but something that will let you adjust the critical areas.
I hear good things about the Dobeck and the PCIII and they are not as involved to install.
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