New 2007 96" motor using pre 2007 Aftermarket pipes
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Road Master
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New 2007 96" motor using pre 2007 Aftermarket pipes
I want to get peoples opinion on this.
I've been communicating with a tech person at Vance and Hinesregarding if I can buy pre 2007 dresser duals or big shot duals and use them on my new 2007 Roadking. He said that they are the same pipes just minus the O2 Bungs. I want to use these because I'm going to go with a PC III with O2 Eliminators and I think the pre 2007 pipes will look much cleaner. The tech told me that the diameters are the same and the way the pipes bolt up is the same as the 88 motor.
Is this correct information. Did they just make our motors a bigger internal stroke but left the externals of our motor alone?
I appreciate peoples feedback with this because I don't want to get these older pipes if they won't bolt up.
I've been communicating with a tech person at Vance and Hinesregarding if I can buy pre 2007 dresser duals or big shot duals and use them on my new 2007 Roadking. He said that they are the same pipes just minus the O2 Bungs. I want to use these because I'm going to go with a PC III with O2 Eliminators and I think the pre 2007 pipes will look much cleaner. The tech told me that the diameters are the same and the way the pipes bolt up is the same as the 88 motor.
Is this correct information. Did they just make our motors a bigger internal stroke but left the externals of our motor alone?
I appreciate peoples feedback with this because I don't want to get these older pipes if they won't bolt up.
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Road Master
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RE: New 2007 96" motor using pre 2007 Aftermarket pipes
Come on I figured that all you tech heads would jump right in here within minutes and give me your knowledge and wisdom! 
Does anyone know if what I'm going to do would be foolish or not.
Thanks, Ralph
Does anyone know if what I'm going to do would be foolish or not.
Thanks, Ralph
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RE: New 2007 96" motor using pre 2007 Aftermarket pipes
Having installed the v&h DUAL HEADPIPES on my '07 the only thing I would be concirned about is the trans bracket--it is different on ' and earlier. I have a Techlusion TFI fuel controller and it is less than half the price of the PCIII and as long as you dont go radical on cam works great. Never need to see a dyno if you dont want to. Just installed a Crane 6000 cam and this bike pulls like a rocket.
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RE: New 2007 96" motor using pre 2007 Aftermarket pipes
ORIGINAL: waltr
Having installed the v&h DUAL HEADPIPES on my '07 the only thing I would be concirned about is the trans bracket--it is different on ' and earlier. I have a Techlusion TFI fuel controller and it is less than half the price of the PCIII and as long as you dont go radical on cam works great. Never need to see a dyno if you dont want to. Just installed a Crane 6000 cam and this bike pulls like a rocket.
Having installed the v&h DUAL HEADPIPES on my '07 the only thing I would be concirned about is the trans bracket--it is different on ' and earlier. I have a Techlusion TFI fuel controller and it is less than half the price of the PCIII and as long as you dont go radical on cam works great. Never need to see a dyno if you dont want to. Just installed a Crane 6000 cam and this bike pulls like a rocket.
Thanks again, Ralph
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RE: New 2007 96" motor using pre 2007 Aftermarket pipes
The demisions of the motor are the same, They achieved the larger displacement by stroking the motor. This is nice because all you have to do to the 96" motor to make it a 103" is install new jugs and pistons. As for the bolt on problem I am not sure for your bike. I was in the same situation with my 07 fatboy. I opted for the old pipes because the ones I wanted wasent offered for the 07. I also didnt care about the bungs because I have always used and love the pc111. Anyhow the old pipes bolted on without a flaw and I am completely satisfied.
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RE: New 2007 96" motor using pre 2007 Aftermarket pipes
I have a set of v/h true duels w/o the bungs on my 07 bagger and had no issues with install,also running se a/c,se race pipes and pclllusb with 02 eliminators.
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Road Warrior
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RE: New 2007 96" motor using pre 2007 Aftermarket pipes
Go with the Screamin' Eagle Race Tuner instead of the PCIII.
The SERT works great with the 07s. It usesthe O2 sensors. Since better than 90% of your riding will be inclosed loop with the O2 sensors controlling the fuel managemant it is a definateplus. Anyone that tells you different does not know EFI tuning orare selling an outdated product that can NOT interface with the O2 sensors. Instead of investing in the newest technology they will feed you someBS line to better their Outdatedproduct.SERT is great for the DYI and can be used by anyone who has some basic tuning knowledge. No dealer or dyno required. It isthe mostflexible and Complete EFI tuning product out there. It can grow as your bike progresses.
The two biggest drawbacks to SERT is. It costmore and it is married to one bike. If you plan on selling you ride in the near futureand returning the bike to stock this is something you need to know. OtherwiseI would highly recommend it. A good Air Cleaner,Exhaust and a Laptop you can down loada Stage 1 Map in your garage and your good to go. (since your still using the O2 sensors no need for an exact match). Ifdown the roadyou sink some serious coininto your motor you can take it to a professional and have it dyno tuned and get the mostout of your hard earned cash.
God Bless and ride safe,
The SERT works great with the 07s. It usesthe O2 sensors. Since better than 90% of your riding will be inclosed loop with the O2 sensors controlling the fuel managemant it is a definateplus. Anyone that tells you different does not know EFI tuning orare selling an outdated product that can NOT interface with the O2 sensors. Instead of investing in the newest technology they will feed you someBS line to better their Outdatedproduct.SERT is great for the DYI and can be used by anyone who has some basic tuning knowledge. No dealer or dyno required. It isthe mostflexible and Complete EFI tuning product out there. It can grow as your bike progresses.
The two biggest drawbacks to SERT is. It costmore and it is married to one bike. If you plan on selling you ride in the near futureand returning the bike to stock this is something you need to know. OtherwiseI would highly recommend it. A good Air Cleaner,Exhaust and a Laptop you can down loada Stage 1 Map in your garage and your good to go. (since your still using the O2 sensors no need for an exact match). Ifdown the roadyou sink some serious coininto your motor you can take it to a professional and have it dyno tuned and get the mostout of your hard earned cash.
God Bless and ride safe,
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RE: New 2007 96" motor using pre 2007 Aftermarket pipes
Wow... are you getting commission from the MOCO or something. The O2s on our bikes are narrow band and pretty much worthless for real time adjustments. I'll probably go with the PCIII. Thanks for your opinions.
. The O2s on our bikes are narrow band and pretty much worthless for real time adjustments. I'll probably go with the PCIII. Thanks for your opinions.
ORIGINAL: JeffSG
Go with the Screamin' Eagle Race Tuner instead of the PCIII.
The SERT works great with the 07s. It usesthe O2 sensors. Since better than 90% of your riding will be inclosed loop with the O2 sensors controlling the fuel managemant it is a definateplus. Anyone that tells you different does not know EFI tuning orare selling an outdated product that can NOT interface with the O2 sensors. Instead of investing in the newest technology they will feed you someBS line to better their Outdatedproduct.SERT is great for the DYI and can be used by anyone who has some basic tuning knowledge. No dealer or dyno required. It isthe mostflexible and Complete EFI tuning product out there. It can grow as your bike progresses.
The two biggest drawbacks to SERT is. It costmore and it is married to one bike. If you plan on selling you ride in the near futureand returning the bike to stock this is something you need to know. OtherwiseI would highly recommend it. A good Air Cleaner,Exhaust and a Laptop you can down loada Stage 1 Map in your garage and your good to go. (since your still using the O2 sensors no need for an exact match). Ifdown the roadyou sink some serious coininto your motor you can take it to a professional and have it dyno tuned and get the mostout of your hard earned cash.
God Bless and ride safe,
Go with the Screamin' Eagle Race Tuner instead of the PCIII.
The SERT works great with the 07s. It usesthe O2 sensors. Since better than 90% of your riding will be inclosed loop with the O2 sensors controlling the fuel managemant it is a definateplus. Anyone that tells you different does not know EFI tuning orare selling an outdated product that can NOT interface with the O2 sensors. Instead of investing in the newest technology they will feed you someBS line to better their Outdatedproduct.SERT is great for the DYI and can be used by anyone who has some basic tuning knowledge. No dealer or dyno required. It isthe mostflexible and Complete EFI tuning product out there. It can grow as your bike progresses.
The two biggest drawbacks to SERT is. It costmore and it is married to one bike. If you plan on selling you ride in the near futureand returning the bike to stock this is something you need to know. OtherwiseI would highly recommend it. A good Air Cleaner,Exhaust and a Laptop you can down loada Stage 1 Map in your garage and your good to go. (since your still using the O2 sensors no need for an exact match). Ifdown the roadyou sink some serious coininto your motor you can take it to a professional and have it dyno tuned and get the mostout of your hard earned cash.
God Bless and ride safe,
Road Master
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RE: New 2007 96" motor using pre 2007 Aftermarket pipes
The HD 0s are narrow band and are not much use. You can use the early pipe but you may have to move the rear bracket around due to the trans cover. As for a tuner you can go the PC route, we sell plenty of them as well you can take it a step further with a system using twin wide band sensors from DTT. Cost wise you are are very close , as you have to pay for tuning on top of the PC unit. Your choice some guys like to tune there own stuff others dont.