Vance & Hines...to do or not to do???
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Vance & Hines...to do or not to do???
Howdy,
I am really close to pulling the trigger and upgrading my bike's exhaust. Here is what I am thinking of doing...
Vance & Hines Chrome Dresser Duals
Vance & Hines Chrome Monster Ovals w/Chrome Tips
Power Commander V
I have a K&N high flow air filter and I believe stock screaming eagle slip-ons.
I'm a bit new to this and really could use some good advice from the experts...
Have a great day and hopefully you live somewhere where you can get out and do some riding today!
I am really close to pulling the trigger and upgrading my bike's exhaust. Here is what I am thinking of doing...
Vance & Hines Chrome Dresser Duals
Vance & Hines Chrome Monster Ovals w/Chrome Tips
Power Commander V
I have a K&N high flow air filter and I believe stock screaming eagle slip-ons.
I'm a bit new to this and really could use some good advice from the experts...
Have a great day and hopefully you live somewhere where you can get out and do some riding today!
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The screamin eagle slip ons are a good slip one but the head pipes are what are restricting your exhaust flow now. By putting a full pipe system on and that fuelpak it will give you a decent performance advance if it is tuned right
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I went out today and "polled" some performance guys... The result, both of them suggested I pay the premium and skip the fuel management system aftermarket devices. They said to do it right, go with a screaming eagle and let Harley do a full dyno. Has anyone had any experience with that?
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I just installed the Jackpot Headers 2-1-2 on my 2010 Ultra Limited and reprogrammed the V&H Fuelpak (contacted V&H tech by email for correct map program). I already had the V&H Air Filter, V&H Turn Down mufflers and using the V&H Fuelpak for management. The bike is running better then ever, definitely more torque and hopefully have solved the heat issue from the exhaust being so restricted from the catalytic converter. Cams are next, hopefully by spring!
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I went out today and "polled" some performance guys... The result, both of them suggested I pay the premium and skip the fuel management system aftermarket devices. They said to do it right, go with a screaming eagle and let Harley do a full dyno. Has anyone had any experience with that?
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Ok, I must submit to my ignorance, what does "PVC" and "SERT" stand for?
Thank you for clearing that up for me!
Thank you for clearing that up for me!
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PCV - power commander version 5. It is a dynojet fuel management product.
SERT - screaming eagle race tuner. It is the Harley fuel management product
SERT - screaming eagle race tuner. It is the Harley fuel management product
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I'd rather dyno a bike with a pcv than a sert, the maps usually come out better with the pcv,
Any quality full tuner has the capability to get you to the same tune. The custom map is developed by the dyno operator, not the tuner itself.
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Just a couple comments here based on my time dyno tuning, first off, the stock head pipe configuration on an 05 bagger is VERY capable of producing both great peak numbers and a great torque curve when coupled with a good set of slip on's.
Secondly, while the PC type tuner is capable it is in no way on the same level as an ecm programmer type tuner like the PV, SEST, etc to properly dial in a bike and all running conditions.
As for the orignal question, the true dual setup you are considering is of quality construction, expect to lose a bit of low end torque compared to the stock headpipe configuration when coupled to the same mufflers.
The cross under type systems like mentioned here work extremely well, the V&H power duals are a great pipe but any of these would require an oil pan change and a couple of holes tapped to work on your 05, worth it in my opinion if you are after both the dual look and max performance.
Secondly, while the PC type tuner is capable it is in no way on the same level as an ecm programmer type tuner like the PV, SEST, etc to properly dial in a bike and all running conditions.
As for the orignal question, the true dual setup you are considering is of quality construction, expect to lose a bit of low end torque compared to the stock headpipe configuration when coupled to the same mufflers.
The cross under type systems like mentioned here work extremely well, the V&H power duals are a great pipe but any of these would require an oil pan change and a couple of holes tapped to work on your 05, worth it in my opinion if you are after both the dual look and max performance.
Last edited by BVBOB; Jan 20, 2013 at 08:53 AM.