131" Starter problem HELP!
131" Starter problem HELP!
Recently I was riding around and then when I came to start my scoot, my starter gave out. Fortunately I was on a looooong hill and after decompressing the motor and trying to get the rear to hook and turn the motor over without letting out in 3rd. I got the machine started and rode straight into my shop.
I took the primary cover off , the starter... I noticed that the midgear between the starter pinion and the motor had sheared a couple of teeth which was causing it to not catch.
Upon further inspection, I also notice a couple of half broken teeth on my OEM 102 tooth starter gear.
I went out and bought a 66 tooth Rivera starter gear kit, rebuild my All ***** starter with new parts and re-installed everything in its place.
Went riding... starter making a loud noise. Took it apart and the mid gear had sheared a couple again.
I inspected the starter motor teeth, replaced, all new internal, went for a ride and again, for the third time I broke something. Starter spins freely now.
I have not had the time to open it again, my question is putting the 66t starter ring, is that causing too much load on the starter?
What combination is used typically on these motors, what recommendations can you give.
Thanks
Joe
I took the primary cover off , the starter... I noticed that the midgear between the starter pinion and the motor had sheared a couple of teeth which was causing it to not catch.
Upon further inspection, I also notice a couple of half broken teeth on my OEM 102 tooth starter gear.
I went out and bought a 66 tooth Rivera starter gear kit, rebuild my All ***** starter with new parts and re-installed everything in its place.
Went riding... starter making a loud noise. Took it apart and the mid gear had sheared a couple again.
I inspected the starter motor teeth, replaced, all new internal, went for a ride and again, for the third time I broke something. Starter spins freely now.
I have not had the time to open it again, my question is putting the 66t starter ring, is that causing too much load on the starter?
What combination is used typically on these motors, what recommendations can you give.
Thanks
Joe
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Recently I was riding around and then when I came to start my scoot, my starter gave out. Fortunately I was on a looooong hill and after decompressing the motor and trying to get the rear to hook and turn the motor over without letting out in 3rd. I got the machine started and rode straight into my shop.
I took the primary cover off , the starter... I noticed that the midgear between the starter pinion and the motor had sheared a couple of teeth which was causing it to not catch.
Upon further inspection, I also notice a couple of half broken teeth on my OEM 102 tooth starter gear.
I went out and bought a 66 tooth Rivera starter gear kit, rebuild my All ***** starter with new parts and re-installed everything in its place.
Went riding... starter making a loud noise. Took it apart and the mid gear had sheared a couple again.
I inspected the starter motor teeth, replaced, all new internal, went for a ride and again, for the third time I broke something. Starter spins freely now.
I have not had the time to open it again, my question is putting the 66t starter ring, is that causing too much load on the starter?
What combination is used typically on these motors, what recommendations can you give.
Thanks
Joe
I took the primary cover off , the starter... I noticed that the midgear between the starter pinion and the motor had sheared a couple of teeth which was causing it to not catch.
Upon further inspection, I also notice a couple of half broken teeth on my OEM 102 tooth starter gear.
I went out and bought a 66 tooth Rivera starter gear kit, rebuild my All ***** starter with new parts and re-installed everything in its place.
Went riding... starter making a loud noise. Took it apart and the mid gear had sheared a couple again.
I inspected the starter motor teeth, replaced, all new internal, went for a ride and again, for the third time I broke something. Starter spins freely now.
I have not had the time to open it again, my question is putting the 66t starter ring, is that causing too much load on the starter?
What combination is used typically on these motors, what recommendations can you give.
Thanks
Joe
On those larger engines, when starting issues surface we reach for a Tech Cycle starter.
Seems to put the problems to rest.
Scott
This is a 1995 compensator that I have machined 1/8 off the inside as I have been doing on all my big inch scoots after my discussion with Randy (not sure if this is you).
Joe
Joe
I have a Tech cycle starter 1.4kw I can use , I would put that starter because my battery is only 20aH Odyssey.
I am afraid that the 66 tooth starter gear is putting too much load on the starter motor motor.
Could that be the cause? What is the recommended starter gear count for the big motors you are building?
Joe
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Yes it is. We find that it helps. I just returned from a week at R&R Cycles, everything I saw there was a big inch engine. The like Weldon starter clutches.
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