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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Mi3ninos
I thought prepaids were no different than debit cards.

They are not much different. But right now she has zero payment history. She's in that boat of she can't get credit 'cause she's never had credit. When I say her bf wacked her credit, it was hot checks and collection services for back rent. All the pp credit card is doing for her is establishing a payment history, which right now she has none.
 
Old Oct 14, 2014 | 09:23 AM
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I've always seen plenty of institutions who want to lend high risk people money. Your FICO score is your ability to borrow money and pay it. Check with Barnett HD if your local won't find someone who will do it.
Mind you your interest rate will be terrible and you will pay more money than the next guy with a good score. Of course anytime you finance something you are going to pay more than you would if you had cash.
 
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Originally Posted by 472viper
They are not much different. But right now she has zero payment history. She's in that boat of she can't get credit 'cause she's never had credit. When I say her bf wacked her credit, it was hot checks and collection services for back rent. All the pp credit card is doing for her is establishing a payment history, which right now she has none.


She does have credit, bad credit. If she is on the account where the bad checks were written she is liable. I'm assuming she was on the lease where the unpaid rent was also.
 
Old Oct 14, 2014 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 472viper
They are not much different. But right now she has zero payment history. She's in that boat of she can't get credit 'cause she's never had credit. When I say her bf wacked her credit, it was hot checks and collection services for back rent. All the pp credit card is doing for her is establishing a payment history, which right now she has none.
I'm sure you mean a secured credit card.

A prepaid is one of those you can buy in most retail stores and just add cash to it. Almost like a gift card but with the credit card logo. A prepaid would do nothing to build credit if it's not tied to a SS#.
 
Old Oct 14, 2014 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 2XNightTrain
Well, you can stereotype me if you want. I paid every bill up to the day my BK lawyer said to stop paying. To have continued onward using cash advances to continue paying bills would have been fraudulent. I sure hope nobody yanks away 25-30% of your income at the drop of the hat with no notice and you have to figure out a way to make due all the while coming off of a divorce and a bilateral pulmonary embolism.
I think the point he was trying to make is you previously got yourself in a position that losing 25% of your income put you on the road to BK.

Instead of taking things slow and building up a good credit profile and living within your means, you are looking to get a large loan at a high interest rate that will end up being a higher payment on a luxury item that, when you look at it objectively, isn't really needed. Not to mention the bad credit will impact your insurance rates as well.

There are other ways to rebuild your credit. So what happens when you have another "event" that cuts your source of income?
 
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Originally Posted by rob0225
I think the point he was trying to make is you previously got yourself in a position that losing 25% of your income put you on the road to BK.

Instead of taking things slow and building up a good credit profile and living within your means, you are looking to get a large loan at a high interest rate that will end up being a higher payment on a luxury item that, when you look at it objectively, isn't really needed. Not to mention the bad credit will impact your insurance rates as well.

There are other ways to rebuild your credit. So what happens when you have another "event" that cuts your source of income?

I think what Rob is trying to say if you don't have a large debt to income ratio, you won't be in a bad spot when things go wrong. Bad credit will make you pay more for several things like insurance as he mentioned.
I can't think of anything that you buy on credit that is NEEDED. All this stuff is wants. Which is fine if you are paying for it.
 
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Originally Posted by rob0225
I think the point he was trying to make is you previously got yourself in a position that losing 25% of your income put you on the road to BK.

Instead of taking things slow and building up a good credit profile and living within your means, you are looking to get a large loan at a high interest rate that will end up being a higher payment on a luxury item that, when you look at it objectively, isn't really needed. Not to mention the bad credit will impact your insurance rates as well.

There are other ways to rebuild your credit. So what happens when you have another "event" that cuts your source of income?
My civilian occupation cannot discriminate whether or not I am employed based upon my inability to deploy to a combat zone because of medications I will take for life. That's the whole entire reason I was given a medical hold pending retirement in the reserves. I had 6 more years to work until high year tenure at 33 years of service.
 
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>> hope nobody yanks away 25-30% of your income at the drop of the hat with no notice and you have to figure out a way to make due all the while coming off of a divorce and a bilateral pulmonary embolism.<<

I'll say it again, you have already answered your question, if you look at things you will agree that <right now> is not a good time to buy.
I have lost income unexpectedly and it sucks. But why add to the problem?

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Originally Posted by baka1969
Harleys are a luxury. Not a necessity.
Agreed, in *most* cases. In my case, because of my disability, the bike *is* a necessity and is actually far easier on my back and far less painless than trying to sit in/drive or get in/out of a car or truck. I'm sure that this kind of thing is such a small percentage of bike owners that it's almost zero, but it is there, heh. Just figured I'd screw up the numbers a little, lol.
 
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Originally Posted by tar_snake
Agreed, in *most* cases. In my case, because of my disability, the bike *is* a necessity and is actually far easier on my back and far less painless than trying to sit in/drive or get in/out of a car or truck. I'm sure that this kind of thing is such a small percentage of bike owners that it's almost zero, but it is there, heh. Just figured I'd screw up the numbers a little, lol.
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