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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2XNightTrain
Well, you can stereotype me if you want. I paid every bill up to the day my BK lawyer said to stop paying. To have continued onward using cash advances to continue paying bills would have been fraudulent. I sure hope nobody yanks away 25-30% of your income at the drop of the hat with no notice and you have to figure out a way to make due all the while coming off of a divorce and a bilateral pulmonary embolism.
In my divorce I lost more than 95% of my net worth and 90% of my income. Since then i've only purchased everything in cash. Including my motorcycles. I never recovered the income i've had before my divorce.

If I don't need it I don't put it on credit. All cash.
 
Old Oct 14, 2014 | 03:47 PM
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You said you were on medical retirement, right? What sort of income do you have from that? I think regardless of your credit score, if you could show a good stable source of income, Harley Davidson Finance will front the loan. Albeit at a ridiculous rate.
 

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Originally Posted by ONEDOWNAND5UP
>> hope nobody yanks away 25-30% of your income at the drop of the hat with no notice and you have to figure out a way to make due all the while coming off of a divorce and a bilateral pulmonary embolism.<<

I'll say it again, you have already answered your question, if you look at things you will agree that <right now> is not a good time to buy.
I have lost income unexpectedly and it sucks. But why add to the problem?

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I don't owe what I used to owe....far from it. I want to reestablish credit. It won't happen by not getting credit and showing that I can make payments. We unfortunately live in a society where your value is based on a FICO score. Yep, I got thrown off that horse, but that doesn't mean I am going to have a pity party the rest of my life for what happened.
 
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You said you were on medical retirement, right? What sort of income do you have from that? I think regardless of your credit score, if you could show a good stable source of income, Harley Davidson Finance will front the loan. Albeit at a ridiculous rate.
I'm in the process of being medically retired from the AF reserves due to my inability to deploy. I'm waiting on my physical evaluation board and then medical board. Retirement pay early (before 60) as a reservist is not guaranteed like it is active duty. I'm fighting the AF over whether it was a line of duty occurrence (my illness) or not. They have a vested obligation to save the government money unfortunately and it may take another year or so to get it all done. I know I will get something from the VA, but I have to get retired and processed out before even that can take place.

I also have a civilian job that is my source of income now.
 
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Originally Posted by baka1969
In my divorce I lost more than 95% of my net worth and 90% of my income. Since then i've only purchased everything in cash. Including my motorcycles. I never recovered the income i've had before my divorce.

If I don't need it I don't put it on credit. All cash.
Yeah well, I still have 20 more months of child support left from a former marriage so when that happens maybe I can be as fortunate as you to pay cash. Most people don't live on a cash basis unfortunately....and have Harleys unless they make a ridiculous amount of money.
 
Old Oct 14, 2014 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by baka1969
In my divorce I lost more than 95% of my net worth and 90% of my income. Since then i've only purchased everything in cash. Including my motorcycles. I never recovered the income i've had before my divorce.

If I don't need it I don't put it on credit. All cash.


90% of your income?!? Sounds like a Sugar Momma!
 
Old Oct 14, 2014 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2XNightTrain
I don't owe what I used to owe....far from it. I want to reestablish credit. It won't happen by not getting credit and showing that I can make payments. We unfortunately live in a society where your value is based on a FICO score. Yep, I got thrown off that horse, but that doesn't mean I am going to have a pity party the rest of my life for what happened.


I will disagree with you on the "fact" that you NEED a FICO score to survive. The only time you need a higher score is to borrow more money.
You are 100% correct to increase your score is by borrowing and paying back that money plus interest. In essence you "buy" your score.
You can save up money and pay less for things, or you can get them now and pay more. The good news is after filing bankruptcy and that is all done, plenty of banks will want to loan you money. Since you can't file again for a period of time, they feel they have you on the hook.
 
Old Oct 14, 2014 | 04:45 PM
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The only time you need a higher score is to borrow more money.
It's not just borrowing, I'm pretty sure my employer checked my FICO during the hiring process. Insurance companies also use the score when writing insurance policies. Landlords also check it.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 05:10 PM
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It's not just borrowing, I'm pretty sure my employer checked my FICO during the hiring process. Insurance companies also use the score when writing insurance policies. Landlords also check it.

But not having a score would not prevent you from any of those. No one says, "You have not borrowed money and been in debt, you get no job/insurance/apartment!"
It is a poor score (bad credit) that hurts you.
I'm not saying people should not borrow money to buy things, just saying debt does not make the world go 'round.
 
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But not having a score would not prevent you from any of those. No one says, "You have not borrowed money and been in debt, you get no job/insurance/apartment!"
It is a poor score (bad credit) that hurts you.
I'm not saying people should not borrow money to buy things, just saying debt does not make the world go 'round.
I'm not big into debt either but our government is certainly a poor role model on this issue. National debt does make the world go 'round.
 



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