Deeley is done.
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From: Great State of Canada
I must have bought at the wrong time of year. I canvassed 5 dealers throughout Alberta and Sask pricing out a Road King and an Electra Glide Classic. I was ordering from the factory in Jan for a spring delivery. There was about $150 price difference between the high and low prices on each model spec'd out the same. I did most of my dealing over a phone, but I couldn't even get a t shirt thrown in the deal. The second closest dealer got my business because the sales man at the closer dealer was an @ss.
.In all seriousness, I don't mind paying MSRP if ALL dealers are holding the line. Prices of new machines and used ones are related so firm prices make HD motorcycles a better investment.
Last edited by HKMark23; Mar 2, 2015 at 09:21 AM.
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From: Port Coquitlam B.C.
I have to say Deeleys Canada treated me fairly. I have an 06 Dyna that had the IPB failure and the cases were replaced for free 3 years after the warranty expired. I started dealing with the local dealership (also named Deeleys) and was told there was no chance of this being done under warranty. I called the Deeley Canada service rep and he set the whole thing up. Once he got everything started Deeleys (the dealer) was fine to work with.
Having said that, there are a few dealers in the region that have been protected by Deeleys Canada that wouldn't stand a chance to survive if another dealer was close by. I hope this levels the playing field and lets a few more dealers in and makes them earn their customers.
Having said that, there are a few dealers in the region that have been protected by Deeleys Canada that wouldn't stand a chance to survive if another dealer was close by. I hope this levels the playing field and lets a few more dealers in and makes them earn their customers.
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From: Southern Ontario, Canada...EH!
I have to say Deeleys Canada treated me fairly. I have an 06 Dyna that had the IPB failure and the cases were replaced for free 3 years after the warranty expired. I started dealing with the local dealership (also named Deeleys) and was told there was no chance of this being done under warranty. I called the Deeley Canada service rep and he set the whole thing up. Once he got everything started Deeleys (the dealer) was fine to work with.
Having said that, there are a few dealers in the region that have been protected by Deeleys Canada that wouldn't stand a chance to survive if another dealer was close by. I hope this levels the playing field and lets a few more dealers in and makes them earn their customers.
Having said that, there are a few dealers in the region that have been protected by Deeleys Canada that wouldn't stand a chance to survive if another dealer was close by. I hope this levels the playing field and lets a few more dealers in and makes them earn their customers.
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Just had a friendly chat with my dealer, they were told prices are definitely coming down for the customer. Deeley's were getting the same US wholesale pricing as American dealers but we're adding their own 'up-charges' or "Deeley tax" on top of shipping and tariff costs. They were acting as a wholesale jobber for all the Canadian dealers, so consequently those prices got passed on to the consumer. No need to have the Deeley monopoly stepping on the price any more, now dealers will be able to buy direct from the MoCo and are free to negotiate unencumbered.
Last edited by Ride my Seesaw; Mar 3, 2015 at 04:10 PM.
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One other thing for people bringing up 1HD ser# bikes. Deeley will no longer be trying to influence the RIV by stating only approved HD dealers can certify bikes as well as you have to have a KPH speedometer. I had mine passed with a MPH speedo with out any problems and was certified by someone who is a non HD mech/dealer. Wonder if this will let the dealers work on US market bikes as well as Canadian bikes equally instead of leaving them till they have nothing else to do?
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That's the Deeley legacy they're leaving behind. Think about it, every single bike sold in Canada, including accessories, not to mention fleet sales like police bikes were given a grotesque Deeley markup. It was good for Deeley while it lasted but with their huge price imbalance they shot themselves in the foot. They single handedly alienated all their customers AND Canadian dealers while enriching themselves and US border town dealers. The US border dealers will be the only one's sorry to see them go. I'll bet in years to come University and College business courses will use the 'Deeley Business Model' as an example of what not to do.
Last edited by Ride my Seesaw; Mar 3, 2015 at 09:30 PM.
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From: Drummondville, Qc, Canada
I think Harley Davidson is going North America as a unique organisation for all dealers.
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From: Great State of Canada
Just had a friendly chat with my dealer, they were told prices are definitely coming down for the customer. Deeley's were getting the same US wholesale pricing as American dealers but we're adding their own 'up-charges' or "Deeley tax" on top of shipping and tariff costs. They were acting as a wholesale jobber for all the Canadian dealers, so consequently those prices got passed on to the consumer. No need to have the Deeley monopoly stepping on the price any more, now dealers will be able to buy direct from the MoCo and are free to negotiate unencumbered.
Astute observation bombay !
HD's US site lists a RK at USD$ 18,449.00 which converts, at todays rates, to $CDN 23,081.00. The Canadian HD site "Deeley" lists the RK at $CDN 22,599.00. So, who is eating the $482.00,,,, plu$ handling the import bull$hit? My bet is that it isn't HD now, and they're not busting the Deeley arrangement just so they can pick up the tab. I'm gonna go way out on a limb here and suggest that in the the post 2017 arrangement, there'll be more, (not less), money in it for HD.
Now, I'm pretty sure this doesn't sum up the entire US/Cda picture and there may well be a price benefit to Cdn customers at the end of the day. I'm just not ready to slap on mt party hat and start tooting my kazoo on the (probably erroneous) assumption that Deeley is simply a scalper.
HD's US site lists a RK at USD$ 18,449.00 which converts, at todays rates, to $CDN 23,081.00. The Canadian HD site "Deeley" lists the RK at $CDN 22,599.00. So, who is eating the $482.00,,,, plu$ handling the import bull$hit? My bet is that it isn't HD now, and they're not busting the Deeley arrangement just so they can pick up the tab. I'm gonna go way out on a limb here and suggest that in the the post 2017 arrangement, there'll be more, (not less), money in it for HD.
Now, I'm pretty sure this doesn't sum up the entire US/Cda picture and there may well be a price benefit to Cdn customers at the end of the day. I'm just not ready to slap on mt party hat and start tooting my kazoo on the (probably erroneous) assumption that Deeley is simply a scalper.
Last edited by HKMark23; Mar 4, 2015 at 05:10 AM.
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From: In my head
You know, I've been to Canada a handful of times bear hunting and I want to thank the good people of Canada for being such gracious hosts and the buyers of all things American.
You are hard pressed to find a no American made auto in Canada (at least the areas I visited), you have to look hard to find a Toyota or a Lexus or whatever make that isn't made in the USA.
The country is clean, the roads are great and the people are so damn nice, I just can't say enough good things about our neighbors to the north.
They deserve to have their American made products without restrictions.
OS
You are hard pressed to find a no American made auto in Canada (at least the areas I visited), you have to look hard to find a Toyota or a Lexus or whatever make that isn't made in the USA.
The country is clean, the roads are great and the people are so damn nice, I just can't say enough good things about our neighbors to the north.
They deserve to have their American made products without restrictions.
OS