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OK , I get it . some people need the automatic brakes , some don't.
ABS saved my life ?
Laid it down?
both are poor examples, ie no details.
usually laying it down says "you hit the rear too hard and the rear end came around
and you lost control"
facts are "you can stop quicker with both tires on the road ,rather than sliding on metal"
saved my life ?? stopped even though I didn't know how to properly use the brakes? ( test with good riders show the stopping distance is close)
I like ABS but if someone's opposed to it for some reason why should they be, since it only kicks in when super-human skills fail you and the wheel locks up?
When it first came out a local MSF instructor poured several bags of sand on the parking lot, then rode around the corner of the building onto the sand and while still slightly turning jammed his brakes on fully. The bike stood straight up and came to a stop.
How in the hell can you argue against that being a good thing?
Also I remember seeing the ABS module mounted on the downtubes of a Fat Boy as far back as 2011.
I like ABS but if someone's opposed to it for some reason why should they be, since it only kicks in when super-human skills fail you and the wheel locks up?
When it first came out a local MSF instructor poured several bags of sand on the parking lot, then rode around the corner of the building onto the sand and while still slightly turning jammed his brakes on fully. The bike stood straight up and came to a stop.
How in the hell can you argue against that being a good thing?
Also I remember seeing the ABS module mounted on the downtubes of a Fat Boy as far back as 2011.
Exactly. In 50 years of riding,I guess I've had more than a few incidents where, knowing how to brake with standard brake systems,kept me outa' the ER. Can't think of a single reason why I would choose anything but ABS,which is why I bought the first models Harley offered with that option. Riding twisted,sandy mountain roads all the time,with nothing but gravel shoulders,it took about 50 miles to convince me ABS has it all over conventional brake systems on a motorcycle. Some need to bray how it isn't necessary,because they're so skilled,yadda yadda. Fact is,no matter what a rider's skill level is,ABS is the cat's *** when it comes to controlled braking,no matter what the surface.
LOL! I just read the rest of this thread. So much bullshit I blew fresh asparagus on the keyboard. Get over it,kiddies,abs is superior to standard braking by a country mile,and stow the crap about how it fails to compare to all the "skilled" blowhards putting it down. It was first offered on Harley touring models in '10,the year my Road King was made. My '11 Deluxe was ordered with abs in Nov. of '10. As for it's effectiveness,it works,every time.
Lots of misinformation being given here, first off 2008 was the first year that abs was offered on touring bikes(not police), as for the rest, it's hard to argue with a know it all, LOL
LOL! I just read the rest of this thread. So much bullshit I blew fresh asparagus on the keyboard. Get over it,kiddies,abs is superior to standard braking by a country mile,and stow the crap about how it fails to compare to all the "skilled" blowhards putting it down. It was first offered on Harley touring models in '10,the year my Road King was made. My '11 Deluxe was ordered with abs in Nov. of '10. As for it's effectiveness,it works,every time.
I'm concerned ABS is another example of further government and product liability intrusion into our right to choose. Isn't mandatory or standard ABS kind of like mandatory helmet laws?
No doubt the ABS supporters might be able to stop quicker than a skilled braker who knows and practices threshold braking.
Do you want that $1000 dealer service when your ABS needs service or the module fails?
Your posts seem to be anti-government, surprised to see you support your right to choose what our safety ****'s wants you to have.
Please remember to wear your fluorescent vest when you ride.
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I'm concerned ABS is another example of further government and product liability intrusion into our right to choose. Isn't mandatory or standard ABS kind of like mandatory helmet laws?
No doubt the ABS supporters might be able to stop quicker than a skilled braker who knows and practices threshold braking.
Do you want that $1000 dealer service when your ABS needs service or the module fails?
Your posts seem to be anti-government, surprised to see you support your right to choose what our safety ****'s wants you to have.
Please remember to wear your fluorescent vest when you ride.
Don't buy one than. Simple solution.
Personally i like having it as a safety feature. Despite what my woman thinks i know im not the best rider of all time. It's saved my skin a few times already. Id gladly pay $1000 service rather than be laid up in a hospital or have the bike down to a wreck.
I'm concerned ABS is another example of further government and product liability intrusion into our right to choose. Isn't mandatory or standard ABS kind of like mandatory helmet laws?
No doubt the ABS supporters might be able to stop quicker than a skilled braker who knows and practices threshold braking.
Do you want that $1000 dealer service when your ABS needs service or the module fails?
Your posts seem to be anti-government, surprised to see you support your right to choose what our safety ****'s wants you to have.
Please remember to wear your fluorescent vest when you ride.
I'm not saying the sky is falling but if the module fails, there is no warning, no light, no code and the brakes don't work at all. That's fun huh?
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