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Always off the bike, standing beside it to fill up. I did see a guy the other day filling his up sitting on it, jiffy stand up and bike running. First time I had seen that, seemed pretty risky to me!
Always sitting while filling up. (I can also shake the bike back and forth and get another pint or so in the tank while sitting and filling)
I've only once ran into a pump that didn't click off automatically. No big deal so long as you keep the bike waxed even a little bit. Hot pipes will rarely cause any excess gas to do anything other than evaporate real fast (in the Navy they teach *EVERYONE* firefighting, and if you're stationed on a boat, you get even *more* training. I know what will and won't cause a fire).
If I'm at a station where the pumps look like crap and don't look like they'll cut off automatically, I'll do like another has said - just watch as you're pumping. Simple.
When I'm done pumping, I put the kickstand down, go pay the attendant, and back to the bike and on my way.
I have seen videos of fires from not setting your gas can on the ground when filling. I never saw that with a bike, but don't want to have my family jewels that close to the nozzle if Murphy's Law kicks in.
Not just a Michigan thing, I'm from Florida but currently in Michigan and I've always fueled up sitting on the bikes, both HD's and sport bikes. Simple to do but I am tall with long arms so that may be why it seems easy to me I never drop the end of the nozzle down into the tank so I can see it filling, the fuel reaches the neck and done. Never had any spills but obviously you need to use a modicum of care.
And because I love challenges, to make it even more fun I can pull up to the pumps from either direction and fuel from the left or right side sitting on the bike... and for the curious I put my leather gloves between my legs on the seat and the cap is on the gloves, chrome down. After this many years of fueling up sitting on the bike if I tried to do it standing next to the bike I'd most likely end up wearing the fuel
I have seen videos of fires from not setting your gas can on the ground when filling. I never saw that with a bike, but don't want to have my family jewels that close to the nozzle if Murphy's Law kicks in.
I saw a video where a man was in the pickup bed pumping, and a fire started, but I can't find it.
The fires where the container aren't on the ground are caused by static electricity. When you have a plastic container isolated from ground, it compounds the problem. In order to get the same from a metal tank, fuel would have to fall more than a foot without impediment and atmospheric conditions would have to be perfect. You are far more likely to start a fire driving your cage than you are riding your bike. Most cage fires caused by static electricity are from people entering and exiting their vehicles without grounding themselves. Ever gotten out of a car and gotten a shock when you closed the door? Now instead of touching the metal car door which grounds you, touch the glass or a rubber portion of the door and then walk around to finish pumping.
99% of the time I will get up and walk around a little - stretch the legs and all that... The other 1% is when it's so cold out my nuts are frozen to the seat and I want the warmth from the engine to help thaw out my legs...
Something similar happened to me once on a trip on my Sporty. This was at a Chevron station - I forget where. I don't lock the handle when I'm filling the bike, but even so, when I released it so I could check the fuel level, the gas just get kept coming. Got all over my tank, engine, and me. There was no emergency shutoff, it just kept going for a good 12-15 seconds.
It didn't catch fire, though. The liquid isn't flammable, just the gas. If you dropped a lit match into a barrel of gasoline, it would fizzle out if it landed before the vapors ignited.
I still sit on the bike when I refuel, most times, but I find a different station if I don't see a shutoff switch.
I do realize that it is the vapors from the fuel is what burns,but take your thought process one step further when the liquid gas runs down on a hot engine,it will produce very volatile fumes with a very low flash point. Don't bet on your lit matches and barrel of gas theory,under the right conditions things could get toasty.Ride safe!
If you stay on your bike, does the pump have to be on a certain side of the bike? I mean, is it easier to sit and fill, if the pump is on a certain side?
If you stay on your bike, does the pump have to be on a certain side of the bike? I mean, is it easier to sit and fill, if the pump is on a certain side?
Honestly, it makes no difference to me, I fuel from either side depending on which 93 octane pump is available. If the pumps are on the right I hold the nozzle in my right hand and let the hose hang, if the pumps are on the left I hold the nozzle with my right and support the hose with my left to keep it off the bike. Edited to add: At the local station I normally use they've just replaced their nozzles and hoses, the new one's are stiffer and heavier so if the pumps are on the right I'm now reaching across with my left to support the hose...
As I posted earlier in this thread I've been fueling while sitting on the bike since I can remember, I insert the end of the nozzle just into the neck of the tank and squeeze the handle gently to get it started, pull the nozzle back enough so I can see in the neck and watch the fuel level as it fills. Obviously you don't run the nozzle full-on but control the flow as it's going into the hole in the neck. These people worried about a pump nozzle clicking off do make me wonder, it's not like we're filling a 100 gallon tank here, 3-4 gallons or so at most, it only takes a few more moments to hold the nozzle, watch the fuel level and ease the fuel in to the tank, a bit of finesse goes a long way to help keep the dragons from coming to call
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