Flag Patch Etiquette?
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Not trying to argue here but I'm wondering how you can do this? The Stars are on the left side of the flag so in order to display them "to the front" you'd have to put it upside down which is a no-no right? What am I missing?
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They make right shoulder flag patches.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=reve...+US+flag+patch
Army Regulation 670-1, “Wear and Appearance of Army Uniforms and Insignia,” updated most recently September 5, 2003, addresses explicitly the proper and lawful placement of the U.S. flag patch on the Army uniform.
The regulation states that when authorized for application to the proper uniform the American flag patch is to be worn, right or left shoulder, so that “the star field faces forward, or to the flag’s own right. When worn in this manner, the flag is facing to the observer’s right, and gives the effect of the flag flying in the breeze as the wearer moves forward. The appropriate replica for the right shoulder sleeve is identified as the ‘reverse side flag’.”
We appreciate and share your concern for the respectful display of our American flag on the uniform of the U.S. Armed Forces."
For more information on Army Regulation 670-1 please visit the following web site, http://www.usapa.army.mil/pdffiles/r670_1.pdf
The regulation states that when authorized for application to the proper uniform the American flag patch is to be worn, right or left shoulder, so that “the star field faces forward, or to the flag’s own right. When worn in this manner, the flag is facing to the observer’s right, and gives the effect of the flag flying in the breeze as the wearer moves forward. The appropriate replica for the right shoulder sleeve is identified as the ‘reverse side flag’.”
We appreciate and share your concern for the respectful display of our American flag on the uniform of the U.S. Armed Forces."
For more information on Army Regulation 670-1 please visit the following web site, http://www.usapa.army.mil/pdffiles/r670_1.pdf
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It's kind of difficult to do that with a vest. I can agree with the "nothing above it" point.
Put it where you want it, I've seen flags in all positions on vests and coats, and have never thought they were in a wrong position. Definitely keep it high and away from DILIGAF patches or other biker trash patches
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Originally Posted by slodsm
Just for informations sake, if an American is rocking a flag on the right shoulder, stars go to the front (backwards from how you normally see it) because it signifies running towards the fight.
2. While working in Asscrackistan I wondered why they made backwards flags. Now I know, so thank you again.
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amen.
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If treating the patch as a flag it should be worn on the right breast if you are going to use a states flag on the same level.
The left lapel is specific to the wearing of pins not patches.
Flag patches were historically worn on the left shoulder so as to properly orient the union to the flags own right. When DOD authorized the flag to be worn on the uniform right shoulder so as to make the US flag the rightmost flag on a uniform the union was improperly positioned so the reversed union was authorized for right shoulder wear. (I have a 5.11 shoulder bag i.e. a murse... I carry occasionally when traveling since the bag rides on the right side I use a reversed patch on it to properly orient the union to the front)
The left lapel is specific to the wearing of pins not patches.
Flag patches were historically worn on the left shoulder so as to properly orient the union to the flags own right. When DOD authorized the flag to be worn on the uniform right shoulder so as to make the US flag the rightmost flag on a uniform the union was improperly positioned so the reversed union was authorized for right shoulder wear. (I have a 5.11 shoulder bag i.e. a murse... I carry occasionally when traveling since the bag rides on the right side I use a reversed patch on it to properly orient the union to the front)
§175. Position and manner of display
(c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof:
...with an exception for display at the UN headquarters in the US
(d) The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag's own right, and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag.
(c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof:
...with an exception for display at the UN headquarters in the US
(d) The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag's own right, and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag.
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