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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 02:52 PM
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Oh, this is getting good! We're going to get somewhere really soon, I feel it.


ok MikerR1, how do you counter-steer?
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Counter-steering has a very specific definition. The wheel must be turned in the direction opposite to the direction you are going. Period.

There is a steering torque required to maintain the lean angle. That is why you have to keep pressure on the inside bar even after you lean, but you are not counter-steering.
OMG, I was probably wrong with that prediction above.
 

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Originally Posted by gotnspikes
I was probably wrong with that prediction above.
Oh, we're getting somewhere alright. Mike has now descended into calling people out for liars. And copouts. Not exactly the right direction, though....
 
Old Oct 21, 2016 | 02:58 PM
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If you live in the southern hemisphere, do you have to countersteer the other direction?
Yes you do. Also the front brake and clutch lever are on opposite sides to help counter the effects of being upside down
 
Old Oct 21, 2016 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by gotnspikes
OMG, I was probably wrong with that prediction above.
Yes, you are right, your prediction is probably wrong.

Counter steering is not about pressure or steering torque. Counter-steering is exclusively about one thing....the direction of the front wheel relative to the direction the rider wants to go. PERIOD!. You can not have counter steering without that condition.
 
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What are the effects on the passenger regarding this counter steering? Does it make her want to go pee more often? If so I'm against this counter steering thing
 
Old Oct 21, 2016 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MikerR1
Yes, you are right, your prediction is probably wrong.

Counter steering is not about pressure or steering torque. Counter-steering is exclusively about one thing....the direction of the front wheel relative to the direction the rider wants to go. PERIOD!. You can not have counter steering without that condition.

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ok MikerR1, how do you counter-steer?
I'll still try...MikerR1, how do you do the action to counter-steer?
 
Old Oct 21, 2016 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by paoloD
Yes you do. Also the front brake and clutch lever are on opposite sides to help counter the effects of being upside down
That explains that. I had a couple of right foot shift bikes in the 60's and 70's that flipped me on my back. Now I know I should have compensated for that. Now I'm learning something.
 
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Originally Posted by gotnspikes
I'll still try...MikerR1, how do you do the action to counter-steer?
I will play along...

If you want to go left you push the left bar forward. The wheel is now pointed to the right, in the direction opposite to the direction you want to go.

If you want to go right you push the right bar forward. The wheel is now pointed to the left, again in the direction opposite to the direction you want to go.
 
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Originally Posted by paoloD
Yes you do. Also the front brake and clutch lever are on opposite sides to help counter the effects of being upside down
Does this have something to do with the Coriolis Effect?
 
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Originally Posted by MikerR1
I will play along...

If you want to go left you push the left bar forward. The wheel is now pointed to the right, in the direction opposite to the direction you want to go.

If you want to go right you push the right bar forward. The wheel is now pointed to the left, again in the direction opposite to the direction you want to go.

Would you be so inclined to say that can be described as "pushing the inside bar forward"?
 



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