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Oct 26, 2016 | 10:01 AM

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Goose_NC

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With out understanding the geometry of rake and trail, one cannot understand physics of riding a motorcycle.

Oct 26, 2016 | 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckw2

You don't steer into the turn at any speed over 10 or 15 mph. You counter steer, then maintain that line. Stop it already. Go watch and LISTEN to that Keith Code video.

Show me this in the video.

Oct 26, 2016 | 10:04 AM

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Okay ... I'll play for just a second. :>)

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...explained.aspx

Oct 26, 2016 | 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MikerR1

Well I guess it means I'm qualified.

Says you and no one else.

Oct 26, 2016 | 10:08 AM

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Says you and no one else.

I am using your definition.

Oct 26, 2016 | 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MikerR1

Show me this in the video.

OK let's make it even easier-get on your motorcycle, go find a curvy road, and the first right hand curve you come to push the right grip FORWARD not down and see how nicely you make the corner. You adjust your line as needed but increasing or decreasing the forward pressure on the grip. You may also tighten the line up by maintaining the same pressure on the bar and rolling on the throttle a bit. Try it. MSF 101 day 1. Been there.

Oct 26, 2016 | 10:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckw2

You don't steer into the turn at any speed over 10 or 15 mph. You counter steer, then maintain that line. Stop it already. Go watch and LISTEN to that Keith Code video.

Listen to what this guy says. He races motorcycles. He says he does not counter-steer through the turn. He counter-steers before the turn and gets his position right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDeSn_QJ_sI#t=13m30s

If you have to counter-steer through the turn you speed is to high for the turn. You did not slow down enough before the turn.

Oct 26, 2016 | 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckw2

MSF did not teach us to counter-steer through the turn, they taught us to counter-steer before the turn. If you have to counter-steer through the turn, then you did not slow down enough before the turn.

The reason street riders do not achieve stable lean angles is because they do not slow down enough before the turn.

Stable lean angles are easier to obtain than keith believes.

Last edited by MikerR1; Oct 26, 2016 at 10:19 AM.

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