Combat Vets Association
Road Master
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Oh, really? My screen shows the thread title "combat vets associations". I missed the "american" part, I guess. I am member of the AALE (amicale des anciens de la legion etrangere) and of the ANAC (association nationale des anciens combattants). Both are combat vets associations. So, you explain to me why my contribution to this thread is not relevant? A combat vet posting in a thread about combat vet associations. Oh wait, I just didn't chime in on the "praise the hoeroes" thing, right? Sorry 'bout that.
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And yet, you keep demonstrating that you're absolutely unable to have a mature conversation. I've been in Lebanon and saw with my own eyes how your marines went back home with their tails between their legs. As a matter of fact, we were even ordered to secure their withdrawl.
I've been wounded twice, once in the ellbow and once in the face. The ellbow was a direct hit, the face was shrapnell. And guess what? I bleed as much as any american soldier. Combat enough for your taste?
I've been wounded twice, once in the ellbow and once in the face. The ellbow was a direct hit, the face was shrapnell. And guess what? I bleed as much as any american soldier. Combat enough for your taste?
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And yet, you keep demonstrating that you're absolutely unable to have a mature conversation. I've been in Lebanon and saw with my own eyes how your marines went back home with their tails between their legs. As a matter of fact, we were even ordered to secure their withdrawl.
I've been wounded twice, once in the ellbow and once in the face. The ellbow was a direct hit, the face was shrapnell. And guess what? I bleed as much as any american soldier. Combat enough for your taste?
I've been wounded twice, once in the ellbow and once in the face. The ellbow was a direct hit, the face was shrapnell. And guess what? I bleed as much as any american soldier. Combat enough for your taste?
I spent some time in the Corps and that little tidbit of info you provided is something I didn't know. I just have a hard time believing we would rely on France to provide cover! That's a joke! It's a good thing that **** happened (if true) in Lebanon and not Germany because we all know how the Germans would have thrashed you guys again.
I have to ask; If France is so great why are you in America? Just asking
How old were you in Lebanon? The Marine Barracks bombing was in 1983. The initial landing was in 1982. In a previous post where you were explaining why I should be scared of you, you stated you were 45 years old. I'm no mathematician but that would have made you either 16 or 17 years old. I guess that is possible but improbable.
The whole Lebanon thing was before my time but from what I do know, the United States just didn't have much national security interests there so that would explain the pull out. Anybody in their right mind will recognize the fact that the US can bomb any country on the face of the planet back into the stone age if so desired. I wouldn't confuse our pullout of Lebanon with anything more than the fact the place is a **** hole and we don't/didn't care about it.
Lastly, you shouldn't insult American service members on an American dominated website that is dedicated to an American product. Most Americans are very patriotic and proud of their country and don't appreciate being degraded by some blow hard foreigner that is living off the fat of our land.
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I was born in 65, I enlisted in 82, at 17 1/2 years old. I was in Beirut 2 days after the bombings (yeah, 51 french cowards lost their lives also, that day). I was there, and yo can ask who you want about the witdrawl. If thy are honest, you wont get a different answer.
As for your question why I am in the US. Well, maybe for the same reason why you live in Germany. It's simple: I chose to live here, it's that simple. I did everything the right way, I am not an illegal allien, and as far as "living off the fat of the land" goes, well, I work, I pay taxes, and I do my best to abide to the law. I learned the language, and I stay out of trouble, if possible.
As far as the patriotic thing goes,
Well, so am I, yet most people on this board, including you, seem to think that patriotism is an american thing. I don't appreciate having my country and fellow countrymen being degraded by some blow hard american. Good enough?
As for your question why I am in the US. Well, maybe for the same reason why you live in Germany. It's simple: I chose to live here, it's that simple. I did everything the right way, I am not an illegal allien, and as far as "living off the fat of the land" goes, well, I work, I pay taxes, and I do my best to abide to the law. I learned the language, and I stay out of trouble, if possible.
As far as the patriotic thing goes,
Most Americans are very patriotic and proud of their country and don't appreciate being degraded by some blow hard foreigner that is living off the fat of our land.
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Think you two need to go on a cross country trip together and leave the petty stuff behind.
Who cares which where you served at? Military is military and we all have and continue to share in the same brotherhood and experiences. Last time I checked France is still an ally to the US, though a bit bitter at times.
I've met many foriegn military people that share in the same pride of services as Americans, so to say "typical American thing" is the same as some one saying "French always retreat." If you don't want to wear a patch then don't wear one, it's cool. But, don't throw it out it being attributed to being vanity as that is creating a stereotype.
For myself, I still believe that it shows that we are willing to support those that are in the same place that we found ourself in years ago. Plus it's fun to share your experiences with those that have been there and can relate and the CVMA and VFW are great places to do that.
Just my 2 cents.....
Who cares which where you served at? Military is military and we all have and continue to share in the same brotherhood and experiences. Last time I checked France is still an ally to the US, though a bit bitter at times.
I've met many foriegn military people that share in the same pride of services as Americans, so to say "typical American thing" is the same as some one saying "French always retreat." If you don't want to wear a patch then don't wear one, it's cool. But, don't throw it out it being attributed to being vanity as that is creating a stereotype.
For myself, I still believe that it shows that we are willing to support those that are in the same place that we found ourself in years ago. Plus it's fun to share your experiences with those that have been there and can relate and the CVMA and VFW are great places to do that.
Just my 2 cents.....
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From: Pirmasens Germany
I was born in 65, I enlisted in 82, at 17 1/2 years old. I was in Beirut 2 days after the bombings (yeah, 51 french cowards lost their lives also, that day). I was there, and yo can ask who you want about the witdrawl. If thy are honest, you wont get a different answer.
As for your question why I am in the US. Well, maybe for the same reason why you live in Germany. It's simple: I chose to live here, it's that simple. I did everything the right way, I am not an illegal allien, and as far as "living off the fat of the land" goes, well, I work, I pay taxes, and I do my best to abide to the law. I learned the language, and I stay out of trouble, if possible.
As far as the patriotic thing goes,
Well, so am I, yet most people on this board, including you, seem to think that patriotism is an american thing. I don't appreciate having my country and fellow countrymen being degraded by some blow hard american. Good enough?
As for your question why I am in the US. Well, maybe for the same reason why you live in Germany. It's simple: I chose to live here, it's that simple. I did everything the right way, I am not an illegal allien, and as far as "living off the fat of the land" goes, well, I work, I pay taxes, and I do my best to abide to the law. I learned the language, and I stay out of trouble, if possible.
As far as the patriotic thing goes,
Well, so am I, yet most people on this board, including you, seem to think that patriotism is an american thing. I don't appreciate having my country and fellow countrymen being degraded by some blow hard american. Good enough?
You are right, I do live in Germany and I am an American. The reason I live here is because I work for the United States government. I have worked for the American government in one form or another my entire adult life. I just go where they send me and right now it happens to be Germany. I'm not here because I jumped on the winning team!
You can be a patriot and be proud of your heritage without rubbing our noses in it. If you're that proud of France just go back. Don't live in America and then take every opportunity to talk about how great France is. Either be an American or don't. The only thing that counts to America is your contribution to America. You could be a national war hero in France but that doesn't mean **** in the US. Before you go busting on the Corps or asking why American combat vets want to wear a patch, make a contribution and earn your seat at the table instead of just barging in and demanding it.
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I'm not demanding anything. I work and earn what's on my table, and I contribute to the american growth by paying taxes. I didn't rub anyones nose in anything either, all I did was to make a point when someone started the french bashing and the white flag jokes.
As far as the patch of some riding organization goes, I have an opinion. I am entitled to one, and I have as much right to voice it as the next guy. All i can think off is "only in the motorcycle world". Just another group of guys who want to wear a patch. Why not join the legacy vets, or any vet MC for that matter? Noooooo, it has to show the "combat" part, and again, nooooooooo, not an MC with rules and bylaws and everything that comes with it. Why not just have a small breastpatch, or even just shirts? What exactly makes them different of the blue knights or those iron order clowns? Now, you tell me again that there;s not one bit of vanity involved here. Oh, please.
As far as the patch of some riding organization goes, I have an opinion. I am entitled to one, and I have as much right to voice it as the next guy. All i can think off is "only in the motorcycle world". Just another group of guys who want to wear a patch. Why not join the legacy vets, or any vet MC for that matter? Noooooo, it has to show the "combat" part, and again, nooooooooo, not an MC with rules and bylaws and everything that comes with it. Why not just have a small breastpatch, or even just shirts? What exactly makes them different of the blue knights or those iron order clowns? Now, you tell me again that there;s not one bit of vanity involved here. Oh, please.
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From: Pirmasens Germany
I will agree that there is some vanity involved but if the guy was in actual combat, and did the deed for this country, then f$ck it he can wear what he wants and I'll support it. With that being said, I'm not naive either, and know that all "combat vets" don't have the same experience of combat intensity or shall we say, actual hands on experiences with the enemy. The word "combat" means different things to the different military services but yea, I support the guys that do the actual killing and if they want to wear a patch, they damn sure earned it in my opinion.
I'm going to bed. Signing off from Germany. Goodnight Chesty!
I'm going to bed. Signing off from Germany. Goodnight Chesty!
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...and another highly intelligent comment. Ah, the joy of arguing with the brainless...
Just when DMORR got into replying in an adequate and eloquent manner instead of spewing hatred, another clown has to step up to the plate of stupidity.
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