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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 12:36 PM
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i downshift while braking. not in liu of.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by skratch
having abs brakes does not take anything away from the rider. in fact, the only time the abs should even be noticeable is if you have done something wrong. otherwise, you should brake the same as you always have.
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 12:42 PM
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Some of y'all are way over-concerned with the fragility of your machinery. Transmissions are designed and meant to be shifted, both ways, at varying RPMs. Clutches are wear items, as are brake pads. Downshifting to slow down and set up for a curve are perfectly acceptable and are a safe practice. Slowing down by lessening the throttle position is a legitimate and safe function. You are not doing yourself or your bike any favors by not operating it withing the design parameters it was constructed to. By utilizing your brakes only (and especially given some of the comments on how some do brake recently) is failing to utilize all the equipment you have at hand to operate safely and effectively. If you are worried about wear, then you should perhaps reconsider having machinery, as wear is a factor in all things mechanical and if you are "saving" your bike for trade in or sale, then it sounds like you can't really afford it to begin with.....
 

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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 01:31 PM
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If the MoCo didn't encourage downshifting to slow down, then why did they introduce the assist and slip clutch? Emphasis on slip in this case.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 02:23 PM
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My time enrolled in MSF discouraged engine braking. Mostly from a safety standpoint- your brake lights won't illuminate without active braking. We're already difficult enough to see, why increase the risk.

Plus pads are cheap.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by _Gir_
My time enrolled in MSF discouraged engine braking. Mostly from a safety standpoint- your brake lights won't illuminate without active braking. We're already difficult enough to see, why increase the risk.

Plus pads are cheap.
Interesting, as the MSF folks out this way encouraged proper utilization of shifting, throttle position and braking to stop. They're not mutually exclusive.

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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 02:37 PM
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MSF's position for BRC is "use BOTH brakes simultaneously."
 
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 03:25 PM
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QP: Ride to the summit of Pike's Peak, and then ride back down. Report back to us about engine braking.
 
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Originally Posted by Fredh
Yup , always downshift to help slow down. It's not hurting anything
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Fredh
Yup , always downshift to help slow down. It's not hurting anything
Some (not me) will say downshifting to slow down will cup the rear tire.
 
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