Looking to go to an S&S 124...am I doing it wrong??
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Looking to go to an S&S 124...am I doing it wrong??
I was hoping to go to a Zippers/S&S 124 for my Breakout this winter:
http://www.zippersperformance.com/zi...e-124-kit.html
https://www.sscycle.com/products/124...wrinkle-black/
So I've been to a few of the local outfits hoping to find a shop that would say "Yeah man, that's a good set-up. We can do that."
Instead, so far, each shop has asked me what kind of TQ & HP numbers I'm hoping for. I believe the 124 kits can do almost 150HP no problem-o. I'd just like to get to 130HP. I figure going with a 124 to get to 130HP would give me an engine that I can ride all day long, sometimes in stop-and-go traffic...sometimes blasting down the freeway all day...sometimes cruising county two-lanes. I figured a 124 doing ~130HP wouldn't be stressed at all.
I should mention that I guess I ride alot - for this part of the country. My Stage 1 2014 Breakout has a little over 20,000 trouble free miles on it now. This seems to raise eyebrows.
Each shop has said that they can get me to 130HP with a 107 - some with a stock bottom end. I'm thinking that this will require a pretty high strung engine...or at least an engine that is more high strung and maintenance intensive than a 124ci/130HP engine would be.
Am I crazy?
http://www.zippersperformance.com/zi...e-124-kit.html
https://www.sscycle.com/products/124...wrinkle-black/
So I've been to a few of the local outfits hoping to find a shop that would say "Yeah man, that's a good set-up. We can do that."
Instead, so far, each shop has asked me what kind of TQ & HP numbers I'm hoping for. I believe the 124 kits can do almost 150HP no problem-o. I'd just like to get to 130HP. I figure going with a 124 to get to 130HP would give me an engine that I can ride all day long, sometimes in stop-and-go traffic...sometimes blasting down the freeway all day...sometimes cruising county two-lanes. I figured a 124 doing ~130HP wouldn't be stressed at all.
I should mention that I guess I ride alot - for this part of the country. My Stage 1 2014 Breakout has a little over 20,000 trouble free miles on it now. This seems to raise eyebrows.
Each shop has said that they can get me to 130HP with a 107 - some with a stock bottom end. I'm thinking that this will require a pretty high strung engine...or at least an engine that is more high strung and maintenance intensive than a 124ci/130HP engine would be.
Am I crazy?
Last edited by NSR; Oct 2, 2017 at 05:57 PM.
Dirt don't hurt
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From: Haslet Texas
If your goal is around 130 hp then I'd suggest the 111.
Factory advertisement says it has around 120 hp out of the box and you won't need to change anything except the motor.
If you go with the 124 you will need to add some large radius pipes, a better clutch and and a stronger starter.
Factory advertisement says it has around 120 hp out of the box and you won't need to change anything except the motor.
If you go with the 124 you will need to add some large radius pipes, a better clutch and and a stronger starter.
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New pipes are already on the way! I placed the order with RB Racing last week. This is it:
https://www.rbracing-rsr.com/turbo/1306rocker_sc.jpg
A new clutch was something I figured on, no matter what engine combo I wound up with.
A starter with more grunt? ...makes sense too. Sure couldn't hurt.
https://www.rbracing-rsr.com/turbo/1306rocker_sc.jpg
A new clutch was something I figured on, no matter what engine combo I wound up with.
A starter with more grunt? ...makes sense too. Sure couldn't hurt.
Dirt don't hurt
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From: Haslet Texas
New pipes are already on the way! I placed the order with RB Racing last week. This is it:
https://www.rbracing-rsr.com/turbo/1306rocker_sc.jpg
A new clutch was something I figured on, no matter what engine combo I wound up with.
A starter with more grunt? ...makes sense too. Sure couldn't hurt.
https://www.rbracing-rsr.com/turbo/1306rocker_sc.jpg
A new clutch was something I figured on, no matter what engine combo I wound up with.
A starter with more grunt? ...makes sense too. Sure couldn't hurt.
S&S 124 all day.
A starter with more grunt?... skip it. s&s easy start cams. i have the in my 110 build, no ACR's need. starts EASY every time.
easy start cams are in the hot set up kit you posted. talk to the s&s folks, they may have a crate 124 set up that way from the gate. no monkey business. and outrageous labor quotes.
https://www.sscycle.com/search/?category=1%7CEngines
easy start from the old guy.... trust bruce
A starter with more grunt?... skip it. s&s easy start cams. i have the in my 110 build, no ACR's need. starts EASY every time.
easy start cams are in the hot set up kit you posted. talk to the s&s folks, they may have a crate 124 set up that way from the gate. no monkey business. and outrageous labor quotes.
https://www.sscycle.com/search/?category=1%7CEngines
easy start from the old guy.... trust bruce
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From: North Jersey, USA
S&S 124 all day.
A starter with more grunt?... skip it. s&s easy start cams. i have the in my 110 build, no ACR's need. starts EASY every time.
easy start cams are in the hot set up kit you posted. talk to the s&s folks, they may have a crate 124 set up that way from the gate. no monkey business. and outrageous labor quotes.
https://www.sscycle.com/search/?category=1%7CEngines
easy start from the old guy.... trust bruce
A starter with more grunt?... skip it. s&s easy start cams. i have the in my 110 build, no ACR's need. starts EASY every time.
easy start cams are in the hot set up kit you posted. talk to the s&s folks, they may have a crate 124 set up that way from the gate. no monkey business. and outrageous labor quotes.
https://www.sscycle.com/search/?category=1%7CEngines
easy start from the old guy.... trust bruce
Looks like a call to S&S is in order. Maybe they can put together a black wrinkle finish 143 for a Softail......
Yep - I am thinking crate engine now instead of a big bore kit for my engine. The last time I looked at the S&S crate engines, they didn't have a 143 for Softail frames - just for the touring bikes. Now they DO have a 143 for Softails - a "Black Edition" ...
Looks like a call to S&S is in order. Maybe they can put together a black wrinkle finish 143 for a Softail......
Looks like a call to S&S is in order. Maybe they can put together a black wrinkle finish 143 for a Softail......
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Good luck with your decision.. Thanks for the links! The zipper heads interest me? Though not much information on them?
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Nsr, I just did a 124 hot set up kit for my breakout. 10.8 kit with 640 cams. Dynoed at 127.9 /129.7. I need a bigger diameter pipe and would probably be in 130s for both. An hpi throttle body would have probably been better too. That being said I don't ride a dyno and the bike hauls ***. Great in town manners. If you ride hard at all I would not build anything without doing the bottom end.