Setup Fees
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I did. That's not a thirteen thousand dollar paint job and add ons. Plus the vin will always say it is a standard model which book value and loan value will not be anywhere near that price which almost that of CVO
Somebody with more money than sense is going to buy it though.
Somebody with more money than sense is going to buy it though.
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Every single bike that comes off the line is put on a dino test bench toned and tested for ride ability . So what are they actually having to do at the dealer besides taking the tyvac cover off the bike .
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Allegedly, they are "supposed" to go over the bikes and make sure all the systems are functioning as designed. That, and check some nuts/bolts. Install front wheels and handlebars. Usually, HD will have a 3rd party company do these chores prior to dealership delivery. Actually, it's probably the delivery company that does this service. And, it isn't any $400 per unit either. More like $20.
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Yeah at HD they always try and wring more money out of you with the mysterious "Set-Up Fee". Now there is a Freight charge and that is listed on the sticker for the bike...fair enough.
When negotiating the price of my bike the sales dude shows me his numbers written down and he has a $980 "set up fee" on there. I tell him he's nuts and will not pay that much, his reply was "oh you want a discount?" I told him not sure where you came up with that number but its ridiculous. He says well we have to pay the guys in the back to get it ready. I said that's almost 10 hours of labor according to your shop rates, it takes that long to prep a fully assembled motorcycle? I did end up getting the discount the sales guy referred to it as.
Will admit the bike came well prepped. I think the part that probably took the longest was programming the security fobs for the bike.
When negotiating the price of my bike the sales dude shows me his numbers written down and he has a $980 "set up fee" on there. I tell him he's nuts and will not pay that much, his reply was "oh you want a discount?" I told him not sure where you came up with that number but its ridiculous. He says well we have to pay the guys in the back to get it ready. I said that's almost 10 hours of labor according to your shop rates, it takes that long to prep a fully assembled motorcycle? I did end up getting the discount the sales guy referred to it as.
Will admit the bike came well prepped. I think the part that probably took the longest was programming the security fobs for the bike.
Last edited by HenryT; Dec 16, 2017 at 11:17 AM.
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Nothing wrong or illegal about it. But HD dealers should state what it really is: Additional mark up, aka profit. Nowadays they try to hide that fact by calling it "freight", "set up fee" and "dealer fees".
The Monroney Sticker lists the MSRP - Manufacturer Suggested List Price" - key word being "Suggested". A dealer has the right to ask any price he wants for his product. And the customer has the right not to purchase it at that price. In nearly 50 years of buying motorcycles, I've yet to pay over MSRP, and I only paid MSRP once. Funny thing is, that bike is still my favorite bike, lol
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Moco pays the Dealer a fee for prepping the new bike for sale.The sevice dept. gets that fee internally and in turn charges the Sales dept. a internal fee to prep the unit.Sales then marks that fee up what ever they want to get more profit per sale. So sales does have a cost on prepping the bike,but its no where the price they charge the customer.
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OP look at line #6 that says HD reimburses dealers for performing pre delivery setup and inspection.
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...d-pricing.html
I just picked this bike randomly FYI. print it out and show the salesman what he should know instead of what he thinks he knows.
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...d-pricing.html
I just picked this bike randomly FYI. print it out and show the salesman what he should know instead of what he thinks he knows.
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OP look at line #6 that says HD reimburses dealers for performing pre delivery setup and inspection.
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...d-pricing.html
I just picked this bike randomly FYI. print it out and show the salesman what he should know instead of what he thinks he knows.
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...d-pricing.html
I just picked this bike randomly FYI. print it out and show the salesman what he should know instead of what he thinks he knows.
Thx!